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<blockquote data-quote="Herschel" data-source="post: 4774628" data-attributes="member: 78357">Hey, kids! Start an edition war in what had previously been a pretty balanced thread, and win a free vacation!&nbsp; ~ PiratecatI'll bite and assume this isn't just a trolling thread:&nbsp;4E is more complex with the structure of powers and abilities, but less reliant on initial set-up. In 3E, if you don't set up properly, your character can be seriously behind the power curve and just kind of crappy. It's all number crunching. &nbsp;4E is more flexible and &quot;forgiving&quot; with retraining abilities.&nbsp;3E has more options at this time because of the umpteen splat books out and 4E is still a new edition with only a few.&nbsp;As for a &quot;werewolf bard&quot; a Longtooth Shifter Bard is right in PHB II in 4E or in a few sources in 3E.&nbsp;Combat in 4E is more dynamic with the powers. It is also more balanced.&nbsp;3E was far better for Munchkins because of all the options and the lack of balance in some characters. It was set up nicely for powergamers.&nbsp;4E out-of-combat put control back in the DM's hands and is far more flexible than 3E. If you like to adjudicate more of the role playing, it's the system to use of the two. If you want rules for everything under the sun so you don't have to worry about making decisions on yay or nay, then 3E is the way to go.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Herschel, post: 4774628, member: 78357"] [color=red][b]Hey, kids! Start an edition war in what had previously been a pretty balanced thread, and win a free vacation! ~ Piratecat[/b][/color][b][/b] I'll bite and assume this isn't just a trolling thread: 4E is more complex with the structure of powers and abilities, but less reliant on initial set-up. In 3E, if you don't set up properly, your character can be seriously behind the power curve and just kind of crappy. It's all number crunching. 4E is more flexible and "forgiving" with retraining abilities. 3E has more options at this time because of the umpteen splat books out and 4E is still a new edition with only a few. As for a "werewolf bard" a Longtooth Shifter Bard is right in PHB II in 4E or in a few sources in 3E. Combat in 4E is more dynamic with the powers. It is also more balanced. 3E was far better for Munchkins because of all the options and the lack of balance in some characters. It was set up nicely for powergamers. 4E out-of-combat put control back in the DM's hands and is far more flexible than 3E. If you like to adjudicate more of the role playing, it's the system to use of the two. If you want rules for everything under the sun so you don't have to worry about making decisions on yay or nay, then 3E is the way to go. [/QUOTE]

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