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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ha-gieden" data-source="post: 3385740" data-attributes="member: 50207">To quote Thunderfoot:"Another option is to let them describe the character to you (Don't open the rules, don't explain anything, just talk) What is their charater concept? What is their driving force? Why do they want to do certain things?As the DM you can then guide them toward an appropriate class (saves on all the rule squashing and the brain oozing that happens to many new players). Explain the finer points of THAT class only, if they want to play a race that isn't a favored one of that class, let them. They will learn powergaming soon enough, let them enjoy being someone else first."I agree with this completely.  We have used it many times, always to great success.  I would also agree with starting the new player out at a lower level than the rest of the party.  The reasons for this are:1) Respect to the other players/characters2) Letting the new player master the class basics before getting into the confusing bits3) Earning those levels make them mean more to the player4) If they attack another PC, they will lose (this has happened)5) Being obviously weaker than the other party members gives an in-game reason for the party to protect the new guy.That said, I think starting characters at 1st when everyone else is at 5th or above is pretty likely to get the new character killed.  It can be seen as a fun challenge for some, but most people will get frustrated.  I would say to start the new player about 3 levels below the current players - unless the current players are at a *really* high level.  In that case, 10th level seems to be the break-over level.BTW, can someone explain to me how QUOTE works on this forum?</blockquote>

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