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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Moon-Lancer" data-source="post: 3758440" data-attributes="member: 35798">well the monk is a controller, and the bard is a leader. I think they are only 5th wheels by definition. by party rolls, i think in 3.4 they are apart of the 4 wheel system.do you calculate what a npc does with his gold after it leaves the pcs hands? i think noonan was just stating that if you don't track the gold, in a practical sense it does disappear. Another way to look at it is, if the pcs didn't exist, the world they inhabit would not exist ether because their would be no one to play in it. the dzn seems to be moving in such a way that makes the world incredibly ego centric to the pcs.</blockquote>