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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minaret" data-source="post: 721199" data-attributes="member: 8458">I'm overwhelmed. You've put a great deal of thought and time into this post. THANK YOU!I'm glad the concept is working for everyone. It's much easier to tweak the mechanics vs overhaul the concept.  No, I haven't read the book.  In truth the idea for the swans came first.  I work as a middle-level manager in a large corporation's R&D department and I've found the best people to hire are SWANs.  SWANs are people that are Smart, Work hard, Ambitious, and Nice.  However, I've also noticed that swans often lose out to the "jackals" of the corporate world. This happens because the swans are focused on doing a good job and helping others while the jackals spend their time maneuvering up the ladder. In the business world, the Tears would be the experienced leaders that keep the jackals at bay while mentoring the newly found swans.Others have mentioned the same thing. I can see the CG perspective. I could make the requirement CG or CN.I'm going to drop Tumble and reduce Pick Pocket to 6. This should lower the bar a bit. For now I'm going to keep Bluff 8, Hide 9, and MS 8. I'm curious about the "Seduction" skill. I'll have to look at the Crimson Contracts book. I really like the imagery of the long fall.I think changing the base to 6 points is a lot cleaner solution, too.I've been fighting this solution for a long-time. I tried putting together a list more than once and never got a mix of spells I liked. After the comments I've gotten from this post, I think the custom spell list is the way to go. I'll have to take a stab and post the list for review.Easy change. Following standard mechanics is a good thing.I agree with your suggestions. Good solution.Question: You say "we" in the quote above. Did you work on the Crimson Contracts book? Your comments are very focused on polishing the Tears' PrC -- good editorial direction.I give - you guys keep seeing what I keep turning a blind-eye to - the Tear will no longer get to disregard massive damage. If the half-damage would still kill her, the Tear dies. I'll also change the XP loss so it's progressive with level advancement. ;-)The way it stands now, it would be instantaneous.Ouch! I missed the "can't be raised or resurrected" aspect. It's gone. Thanks for the catch.I'll change the confusing "cover" bonus to a combination deflection/concealment bonus.I haven't written this section yet, but from the feedback I've gotten I feel I need to include it.Kerrick, thanks again for all the insights and fixes.  You've given me a lot of edits and enhancements.- Minaret</blockquote>

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