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<blockquote data-quote="Starfox" data-source="post: 6111505" data-attributes="member: 2303"><p>I agree with your basic premise - that it is hard to make a bardic PrC and that most PrCs that exist don't work well for bards. PrCs are about specialization, focusing on one ability, something that does not sit well with a generalist like the bard. If you have 3 abilities, sacrificing two to focus on one works. If you have 10 abilities, dropping 9 to focus on one won't work, and this is the situation with most bard PrCs. This means a bardic PrC needs to also be a generalist, even if the focus shifts a little.</p><p></p><p>Sadly, it is hard to make a bard PrC that is not actually more attractive to sorcerers. Classes offering levels as a spellcaster generally only distinguish between arcane/divine. In 3.5, I find that giving specific bard spellcaster levels works - they stack with bard spellcasting from other sources, but not with other classes.</p><p></p><p>On your prestige class, I find that the prerequisites are a bit too high and too varied. It pigeonholes the class to tightly. Relaxing the prerequistes would make this generally more useful and less of a "PrC made for a specific character".</p><p></p><p>I made quite a similar PrC some years ago incorporating these thoughts. Not sure I'd use it today in my Pathfinder game, but I submit it to you for comparison: <a href="http://hastur.net/wiki/Ruin_Explorer_%28D%26D_class%29" target="_blank">http://hastur.net/wiki/Ruin_Explorer_(D&D_class)</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Bards/rouges (d6) and clerics (d8) have the same BAB advancement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Starfox, post: 6111505, member: 2303"] I agree with your basic premise - that it is hard to make a bardic PrC and that most PrCs that exist don't work well for bards. PrCs are about specialization, focusing on one ability, something that does not sit well with a generalist like the bard. If you have 3 abilities, sacrificing two to focus on one works. If you have 10 abilities, dropping 9 to focus on one won't work, and this is the situation with most bard PrCs. This means a bardic PrC needs to also be a generalist, even if the focus shifts a little. Sadly, it is hard to make a bard PrC that is not actually more attractive to sorcerers. Classes offering levels as a spellcaster generally only distinguish between arcane/divine. In 3.5, I find that giving specific bard spellcaster levels works - they stack with bard spellcasting from other sources, but not with other classes. On your prestige class, I find that the prerequisites are a bit too high and too varied. It pigeonholes the class to tightly. Relaxing the prerequistes would make this generally more useful and less of a "PrC made for a specific character". I made quite a similar PrC some years ago incorporating these thoughts. Not sure I'd use it today in my Pathfinder game, but I submit it to you for comparison: [url]http://hastur.net/wiki/Ruin_Explorer_%28D%26D_class%29[/url] Bards/rouges (d6) and clerics (d8) have the same BAB advancement. [/QUOTE]
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