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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shmoo2" data-source="post: 322488" data-attributes="member: 6847">I'd like some help determining the ECL of a new race in my campaign.The race is kinda like halflings, but with the ability to grow to ogre size once per day.-----Downlings+2 Dex, -2 Str, -2 Con, +2 ChaSmallBase speed 20 feet+2 racial bonus to balance+2 racial bonus to spotAbility to grow to ogre (large) size once per day. This follows the normal rules for small to large size increases given on page 12 of the MM, i.e. +12 Str, -4 Dex, +6 Con, +2 natural armor, -2 to AC/attack. This effect lasts for 1+ ( the newly improved) Con modifier.favored class: transmuter-----Basically the race trades the halfling save bonus, thrown weapon bonus, and a couple of skill perks for (on average) 3 rounds per day of ogre size.In addition, they take a hit to Con in exchange for Cha.I can't decide if this race should be +0 or +1 ECL.comments?thanks!</blockquote>