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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thia Halmades" data-source="post: 2624203" data-attributes="member: 35863">Curse my failure still to have NGE!!  CURSES I CRY!!  I SHALL HURL THEM TOWARDS THE GREAT ... nevermind.  Nice catch, btw, Merlion.Other than the borrowing, the class seems 'balanced' in terms of what it does (i.e., create wizards).  So you have cold-resistant Elves with all the grace of Flightless Waterfowl.  Pass the pickled herrings.By the by, has anyone assigned these puppies a Swim speed?And, last but not least, I have read His Dark Materials, and the Polar Bears would have a screaming high ECL, as well as their own class, where their armor took the place of a Samurai's sword or, if you want to refer to the BOED, the Ancient Relic feat.  The one you sink cash / items into in order to develop it into something greater.  So without reinventing the wheel, you'd be looking at ways to buff up the armor within the limits ascribed by that ability.  You could change costs as necessary, and then each suit of armor would be individually tailored to the sentient polar in question.This would include granting of additional feats or spell like abilities, stat bonuses, etc.  Favored Class should, obviously, be "Armorer" (insert appropriate flavor name here).  I'd shudder to consider the stat mods, considering among other things they would beSize: Large.  As large creatures they gain all benefits and penalties thereunto.Flavor Restriction: They're naturally bipedal and wield no weapons, other than their armor.  That would be the big one.  All of your gear would revolve around being connected in some way.Stat Modifiers: This is intimidating off the top.  I would, at least in part, use the Monster Level Rules introduced in Unearthed Arcana to gain levels in Polar Bear and thus ramp up to the appropriate stats.  Far as I'm concerned, you're looking at a minimum +4 STR and +4 CON, with no inherent penalties to any other stat (as the race was detailed in the book, they were annoying smart AND wise.)  I'd probably try to speed-mod one of the other large sized races to get this going the way you want.  If I knocked any stats down, it would be -2 DEX (they're described as being deceptively fast; that's for a Polar Bear, and compared to, say, a Halfling, pretty slow) and -2 CHA, as they aren't exactly the friendly sort.I would also roll Natural Armor in here, and my personal favorite, Scent for beast type races comes comfortably equipped early on in the racial level progression.  It would only get more complicated from here, depending on which model you used and how deep you wanted to make it.Armorer Class Notes: d12 HD, to represent the absurd toughness that comes with the size.  Cleric Advancement for BAB?  I would, based on the abilities we're looking at from the armor options, this is a defense-heavy class.Spell Casting would be replaced with the armor & any SLA that you slap onto it.  Additional armor bonuses, or defense-related abilities could be rolled in here.  As far as where to start, again, I'd reference Samurai and switch it from an offensive model to a defensive model.  I don't have the book at the office, so I'm going off the top of my head.  I have no idea what they do without looking it up.This is a first blush series of ideas, but you can see where I'd go with it.  That's me, though.  Feel free to run with scissors.LCpt. Thia Halmades</blockquote>

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