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Message: <blockquote data-quote="maggot" data-source="post: 1444998" data-attributes="member: 1005">Charisma is a weak stat, used by Sorcerers, Paladins, and Bards.  I've seen many clerics skip it.  Constitution is a strong stat, maybe not as strong as stregth, but if you skimp on it, you end up dead.  So the +CHA for -CON trade is going to pretty much mean only Sorcerers, Paladins, are Bards are good for this race.  (This is unlike your INT race where the +INT means extra skill points and thus may be offset by a -CON.)So you could penalize DEX or STR.  The DEX doesn't fit the race, the STR has been done.  So why not go for a mental stat.  Why not -2 WIS?  This moves the race away from paladins (where the flavor didn't fit).  It becomes -1 Will save which is nothing to scoff at, and -1 on all perception skill, again nothing to scoff at.I'd run with -2 WIS.  You could do -2 STR instead, but that makes the race uber for sorcerers.No.  I see no reason for Almaren to have this ability when humans and halflings do not.Bards and sorcerers already have +1 DC because of the +2 CHA.  I think giving out +2 DC is too much.  Remember this ability alone would cost a human or half-elf and entire feat.Maybe +1 caster level for enchantments.  I've seen you use similar things in other races.No problem.  A bit too much like elves and half-elves +2 versus enchantment for my tastes though.  And if you go with -2 WIS, it compensates too much for the loss of wisdom.There supposed to be graceful, how about +2 reflex saves.  No that's too much, how about +1 reflex saves and +2 on balance checks.I'd skip this too.  Too much like a gnome.  Getting CHA 10 when you have +2 CHA isn't a challenge at all.So they get +3 overall on Perform (with charisma).  They really kick as bards.  No thanks.  I'd give them +2 racial on all crafts.  They get the perform bonuses enough.Again stepping on the gnome's foot.  Not sure what else to do though.So my version would be this:+2 CHA, -2 WIS+2 on all craft checks+2 on balance and tumble checks+1 on reflex saves+1 caster level for enchantment spellsFavored Class: BardNeeds something though.  That's why I added +2 tumble.  That's might be enough.  I don't want to add low-light vision back in, so maybe more skill bonuses: appraise?  jump?Now I'm just fishing...</blockquote>

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