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<blockquote data-quote="maggot" data-source="post: 1456303" data-attributes="member: 1005">Wizards need at most three things to be successful.&nbsp; They need INT for more spells and higher DCs, they need DEX to go first with spells and to help with their lack of armor, and they need CON because of their low hit points.So why does the Elf wizard work, because they are trading a valuable resource (CON) for another valuable resource (DEX).&nbsp; Human wizards are viable because they don't do this swap and end up with an extra feat and more skill points.&nbsp; True power-gamers play gnomes and halflings for wizards becaues they basically get the +CON or +DEX almost for free: -STR means nothing to a wizard, smaller weapons sizes are likewise irrelevant, and the slower movement rate can be made up for with spells.&nbsp; Dwarves also work well for wizards, but also suffer from slower movement.If you introduce a +INT,-STR race at LA +0, they will compete with gnomes and halflings in the power-game arena, without the movement penalties and without the weapon size penalties.&nbsp; So even more reason to pick them.&nbsp; And because +2 INT gives extra skill points, the human is less attractive because the same base score will generate the same skill points.&nbsp; And the other stuff the race gets is more than equal to a feat.If the race was +INT,-CON, the choice would be more interesting: go human/halfling for more hit points or dwarf/gnome for even more; go elf for dex instead of int.Basically, I'm not sure if a +INT, -STR race can be balanced at LA +0.AU has loresong faean, a +INT,-STR race and a small one at that.&nbsp; Everyone who wants to play a magister (the wizard of AU) wants to play a loresong because frankly they are just better magisters than everyone else.&nbsp; Playing any other race as a magister is basically a penalty most people don't want to absorb.&nbsp; Akin to the reason you see precious few half-orc wizards in regular D&amp;D: it might be cool, but the stats are too much against you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="maggot, post: 1456303, member: 1005"] Wizards need at most three things to be successful. They need INT for more spells and higher DCs, they need DEX to go first with spells and to help with their lack of armor, and they need CON because of their low hit points. So why does the Elf wizard work, because they are trading a valuable resource (CON) for another valuable resource (DEX). Human wizards are viable because they don't do this swap and end up with an extra feat and more skill points. True power-gamers play gnomes and halflings for wizards becaues they basically get the +CON or +DEX almost for free: -STR means nothing to a wizard, smaller weapons sizes are likewise irrelevant, and the slower movement rate can be made up for with spells. Dwarves also work well for wizards, but also suffer from slower movement. If you introduce a +INT,-STR race at LA +0, they will compete with gnomes and halflings in the power-game arena, without the movement penalties and without the weapon size penalties. So even more reason to pick them. And because +2 INT gives extra skill points, the human is less attractive because the same base score will generate the same skill points. And the other stuff the race gets is more than equal to a feat. If the race was +INT,-CON, the choice would be more interesting: go human/halfling for more hit points or dwarf/gnome for even more; go elf for dex instead of int. Basically, I'm not sure if a +INT, -STR race can be balanced at LA +0. AU has loresong faean, a +INT,-STR race and a small one at that. Everyone who wants to play a magister (the wizard of AU) wants to play a loresong because frankly they are just better magisters than everyone else. Playing any other race as a magister is basically a penalty most people don't want to absorb. Akin to the reason you see precious few half-orc wizards in regular D&D: it might be cool, but the stats are too much against you. [/QUOTE]

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