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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 1438744" data-attributes="member: 10397">Um, they dont have any spell like abilities, and  the natural armor bonus to AC is almost entirely negated by the Dex penalty. The affects of the dex penalty to their armor class are partialy erased by the natural armor bonus. However unlike a Dex bonus the natural armor bonus doesnt apply to touch attacks. Also, it still affects Reflex saves and Dex based skills. So? +2 to Str is better than weapon focus since it adds to attack and damage rolls. Edit: and to all melee attack and damage rolls, not just with 1 weapon. I dont really see how being able to speak with plants is so powerful. Its mostly for flavour beause of their nature.  I have posted this race before (at that time it didnt have the Plant Affinity thing with caster level) and most seemed to feel it was underpowered. I agreed. So explain to me why the Speak with Plants is so powerful..I'm very curious. And compare to races like Gnomes and Dwarves which also have a whole load of abilities. Why play a rogue of any race but halfling or elf? They gain a bonus to Dex, and a number of other bonuses very useful for a rogue.How bout some thoughts on the prestige class?</blockquote>