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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 1443114" data-attributes="member: 10397">But you have yet to give me a reason why, aside from referencing savage species, a non core source that I dont have access to to evaluate well, your system rates spells solely according to their spell level, with no thought given to actual usefulness. Having unlimited Speak with Plants is very different from say unlimited Dispel Magic, or Fireball. Just like having Animate Rope as an unlimited ability isnt the same as having Magic Missile or Mage Armor as an unlimited ability. Not according to the DMG. Most of their traits are similiar to traits possessed by PH races. And some PH races have abilities that cant really be compared to others. Only Gnomes gain a free Spell Focus. Only Humans get an extra feat of their choice. But we can still measure them against each other, pretty accurately to my mind. The only reason we cant agree about those things is that you havent presented reasons for why you feel as you do about them. How is a +2 natural armor bonus drasticaly better than a +1 to save DCs with a spell school (Gnomes) or a stackable +1 bonus to all saves (Halfling). Or perhaps some of them are sub par. Or some combination of the 2.</blockquote>