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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2335341" data-attributes="member: 5777">Just a basic writeup, if anyone sees any problems let me know, sometimes pulling through different sources can make for some oversites.(I had to give an extra level of class so that I could use the same armor on each build)Human psychic warrior 3Hit Dice: 3d8+3 (avg 20)Abilities: Str 14, Dex 13, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 15, Cha 8Armor Class: 21 (+8 full plate, +2 heavy steel shield, +1 dex), touch 11, flat-footed 20 Base Attack/Grapple: +2/+4 Attack: Longsword (d8+2 19-20/x2, +4), Mighty +2 Composite Longbow (d8+2 20/x3, +3)Skills: 18 skill points from psychic warrior listSaves: Fort +4, Ref +2, Will +3 Feats: 3 any feats, 2 psychic warrior feats (fighter + psychic)PP: 6Powers: 3 1st level powersManifestor level: 3Human psion 3HD: 3d4+3 (avg 12)Abilities: Str 10, Dex 13, Con 14, Int 15, Wis 12, Cha 8Armor Class: 11 ( +1 dex), touch 11, flat-footed 10 Base Attack/Grapple: +1/+1 Attack: dagger (d4 19-20/x2, +1), light crossbow (d8 19-20/x2, +2)Skills: 30 skill points from psion (x) listSaves: Fort +3, Ref +2, Will +4 Feats: 3 any feats, 1 bonus (psionic, metapsionic, psionic item creation)PP: 14Powers: 5 1st level powers, 2 2nd level powersManifestor level: 3Human soulknife 3HD: 3d10+3 (avg 24)Abilities: Str 15, Dex 13, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 8Armor Class: 17 (+4 chain shirt ,+2 large shield, +1 dex), touch 11, flat-footed 16 Base Attack/Grapple: +2/+4 Attack: Mind Blade (d6+2 19-20/x2, +5)Skills: 36 skill points from soulknife listSaves: Fort +3, Ref +4, Will +3 Feats: 3 any feats, Weapon focus (mindblade), Wild TalentPP: 2Special: Throw mind blade, Psychic Strike +1d8---Kri'Loroth (base)HD: 2d8 (abberation)Large sizedWeak BuildLow light visionPsychic voice+1 pp/hdpsi ability with metaphysical weapon and inertial armor2 psionic featsKri'Loroth psychic warrior 1Hit Dice: 3d8+6 (avg 23) (better by 3)Abilities: Str 16, Dex 15, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 17, Cha 10 (better, obviously..lol)Armor Class: 20 (+8 full plate, +2 heavy steel shield, +1 dex, -1 size), touch 10, flat-footed 9 (worse, although this version has a higher dex, so later on this guy could go for mithril to takd advantage of it, but then he couldnt have adamantine armor, tough call)Base Attack/Grapple: +1/+4 (worse in bab)Attack: Longsword (d8+3 19-20/x2, +3), Mighty +3 Composite Longbow (d8+3 20/x3, +2) (better in damage, worse to hit)Skills: 15 skill points for base race skills ,3 skill points from psychic warrior list (worse)Saves: Fort +4, Ref +2, Will +6 (same, same, better) Feats: 2 any feats, 1 psychic warrior feats (fighter + psychic), 2 psionic feats (worse, surprising isnt it? lol)PP: 4 (worse)Powers: 1 1st level power (worse)Manifestor level: 1 (worse)Special: Low light vision (better)So, take this as you will, but I think it is a tough call between the two.Kri'Loroth psion 1HD: 2d8 + d4 +6 (avg 21) (much better, no surprise there! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )Abilities: Str 12, Dex 15, Con 16, Int 17, Wis 14, Cha 10 (better)Armor Class: 11 (-1 size, +2 dex), touch 11, flat-footed 9 (same, same, worse)Base Attack/Grapple: +1/+2 (same, better in grapple)Attack: dagger (d4+1 19-20/x2, +0), light crossbow (d8 19-20/x2, +1) (better damage on dagger and worse to hit, worse to hit on crossbow)Skills: 25 skill points for base race skills, 5 skill points from psion (x) list (tough, I think the human has the advantage though, it depends on which psion was picked though)Saves: Fort +3, Ref +2, Will +7 (same, same, better)Feats: 2 any feats, 1 bonus (psionic, metapsionic, psionic item creation), 2 psionic (better, definately)PP: 6 (worse, much)Powers: 3 1st level powers (way worse)Manifestor level: 1 (worse)Rather a lot like taking 2 levels of psychic warrior actually, with some interesting twists, worse in some ways and better in others.. but definately worse than a straight psion for manifesting.Kri'Loroth soulknife 1HD: 2d8+d10+6 (avg 24) (same!)Abilities: Str 17, Dex 15, Con 16, Int 14, Wis 12, Cha 10 (better)Armor Class: 17 (+4 chain shirt ,+2 large shield, +2 dex, -1 size), touch 11, flat-footed 15 (same, same, worse) Base Attack/Grapple: +1/+4 (worse bab) Attack: Mind Blade (d6+3 19-20/x2, +4) (1 better damage, 1 less to hit)Skills: 20 skill points for base race ,6 skill points from soulknife list (way worse than the human)Saves: Fort +3, Ref +4, Will +6 (same, same, better) Feats: 2 any feats, Weapon focus (mindblade), Wild Talent, 2 psionic feats (debateable, but I'd say better for the Kri'Loroth)PP: 2Special: None (definately worse)This guy is definately better off being human by far <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Now, I know it looks powerful just being written out, but taking the above into account what do people think? Can any of you show with a build where it is overpowered? At this point it is roughly equal at least and just at a guess later on the bonuses will be mitigated by being behind in class features.If anything is broken or if people can find a big overpowered combo feel free to let me know.I seem to have forgotten where I put the racial skill list.. it only had about 4 or 5 skills on it though.Did I miss anything in these builds?</blockquote>

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