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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IcyCool" data-source="post: 2343521" data-attributes="member: 20308">Yep, missed the size penalty.Incorrect, you get this benefit as part of the "balancing flaw" of two racial hit dice.  Discounting this would be ... silly.Three of the four (five?) psionic skills.  And the important ones at that.  How exactly is the Kri'Loroth psionic character missing out in any way?Really?  Well, if that human takes a level of fighter as his first level, he's got a "worse" selection than the Kri'Loroth.The human psionic doesn't really win here.  And the human should be winning, skills and feats are what humans do better than everyone else.You listed 3.  Two of which the human should be better at.Think of it this way.  Bob is the strongest man on earth.  Kri'Loroth Bill is the smartest, fastest, and most good looking creature on the earth.  He's also just as strong as Bob.Sorry, my earlier posts had it, but that one slipped through.  It should read, "better than the human in almost every way."As Azurecrusader pointed out, "weak build" doesn't make much sense with the stat bonuses you've put out there.It certainly makes it more powerful.  Does it make it much more powerful?  You don't seem to think so, why?The anthropomorphic animals show the problems with trying to use racial hit dice instead of LA to help balance a race.  At 2 RHD and no LA, the Kri'Loroth are a "no brainer" choice when playing a psionic class.  At LA +2, they are a much tougher choice.  You appear to think that if they were LA +2, they would be either unplayable or inferior all the time.  Why?Well, you have given the Kri'Loroth the same number of skill points and feats as an equivalent ECL human.  Feats and skills are the strengths of the human.  I'll say that again, because you seem to be glossing over it.  Feats and skills are the strengths of the human.  And you are trying to claim that this is a disadvantage.  You've given the Kri'Loroth fantastic abilities, and are claiming them as disadvantages.  Think about that.  Maybe it will help clear some of the confusion.Here, I'll fix it for you:Pro: +20hp, +1 ini, +1 damage, low light vision, psi-ability, +1 reflex, +4 will, +2 Str, +2 Dex, +2 Con, +2 Int, +2 Wis, +2 Cha, same number of skill points (certain psionic skills are class skills), same number of feats (must choose psionic feats with two of them)Con: -1 AC flatfooted, -1 BAB, -1 size penalty to hit, 2 less 6th level powers known, 2 less manifestor levelsDoes that help at all?I think Bront's comparison to the Lizard Folk is pretty spot-on as well.It appears that you just want to argue with people here about your pet creation.  Is that the case?</blockquote>

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