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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2357653" data-attributes="member: 5777"><p>Nah, not all do. Most of them do, but not all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I dont see the extra hp overcoming the manifestor level loss though for the psychic warrior or other casters. The human is definately ahead in the sorcerer race though, the Kri'Loroth can pick two feats that dont really do anything for sorcerers directly in all likelyhood but the human is ahead by an entire spell level. Human sorc vs Kri'Loroth sorc and personally I'd pick the human 99% of the time. </p><p></p><p>I dont see that the human should, by default, be ahead of others in the feat/skill arena. However, with that said, the human gets an any feat and jumps directly into class skills with his bonus points, the Kri'Loroth gets bonus psionic feats (much more limited list) and has to use many skill points on racial skills only (this part could go either way about good or bad, but it definately slows down many class skill progressions, especially if you have a high bonus and dont want any crafts or professions, that only leaves 3 choices, one of which is really only helpful for casters/manifestors).</p><p></p><p>So, the human is still better in the feat area, so long as you make a choice that isnt a psionic feat.</p><p></p><p>This reminds me of the balance they did between the psion and the wizard. The wizard gets two feats at first level: craft scroll and familiar. The psion gets one feat at first level and gets to choose a psionic feat, metapsionic feat, or item creation feat.</p><p></p><p>2 vs 1, the 1 has more choices though. For Kri'Loroth it is again 2 vs 1, and again the 1 has more choices.</p><p></p><p>So the human is still king in his number of choices and different builds it can help directly, through the bonus skill points working immediately to help and the feat being able to be chosen from a massive list.</p><p></p><p>With the 20th level halfling fighter vs the 20th level human fighter I would think that the halfling would go a very different route for what they are good at. If they both tried to do exactly the same thing then definately one of them is going to come up short (ha).</p><p></p><p>The halfling is likely to have a much higher touch ac vs the human, and more likely to use reduce in combat to increase his prowess rather than enlarge like the human (anyone else see the insane build with the ranged halfling fighter? Massive bonus to attack, he basically ignored base weapon damage and just added on modifiers, but it was very impressive, he could hit anything)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If they were a medium race then they would need other penalties to cover the bonuses and/or taking away of a lot of bonuses. Plus, the creature is supposed to stand at an average of 3 meters tall. Not all large creatuers have a reach of 10' however, so there is already precident for that <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I'll look over how much impact having stats 2 points higher will do (I use a different epic ruleset, so that wont matter) and the +1 to all skill checks.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for your time bront!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scion, post: 2357653, member: 5777"] Nah, not all do. Most of them do, but not all. I dont see the extra hp overcoming the manifestor level loss though for the psychic warrior or other casters. The human is definately ahead in the sorcerer race though, the Kri'Loroth can pick two feats that dont really do anything for sorcerers directly in all likelyhood but the human is ahead by an entire spell level. Human sorc vs Kri'Loroth sorc and personally I'd pick the human 99% of the time. I dont see that the human should, by default, be ahead of others in the feat/skill arena. However, with that said, the human gets an any feat and jumps directly into class skills with his bonus points, the Kri'Loroth gets bonus psionic feats (much more limited list) and has to use many skill points on racial skills only (this part could go either way about good or bad, but it definately slows down many class skill progressions, especially if you have a high bonus and dont want any crafts or professions, that only leaves 3 choices, one of which is really only helpful for casters/manifestors). So, the human is still better in the feat area, so long as you make a choice that isnt a psionic feat. This reminds me of the balance they did between the psion and the wizard. The wizard gets two feats at first level: craft scroll and familiar. The psion gets one feat at first level and gets to choose a psionic feat, metapsionic feat, or item creation feat. 2 vs 1, the 1 has more choices though. For Kri'Loroth it is again 2 vs 1, and again the 1 has more choices. So the human is still king in his number of choices and different builds it can help directly, through the bonus skill points working immediately to help and the feat being able to be chosen from a massive list. With the 20th level halfling fighter vs the 20th level human fighter I would think that the halfling would go a very different route for what they are good at. If they both tried to do exactly the same thing then definately one of them is going to come up short (ha). The halfling is likely to have a much higher touch ac vs the human, and more likely to use reduce in combat to increase his prowess rather than enlarge like the human (anyone else see the insane build with the ranged halfling fighter? Massive bonus to attack, he basically ignored base weapon damage and just added on modifiers, but it was very impressive, he could hit anything) If they were a medium race then they would need other penalties to cover the bonuses and/or taking away of a lot of bonuses. Plus, the creature is supposed to stand at an average of 3 meters tall. Not all large creatuers have a reach of 10' however, so there is already precident for that ;) I'll look over how much impact having stats 2 points higher will do (I use a different epic ruleset, so that wont matter) and the +1 to all skill checks. Thanks for your time bront! [/QUOTE]
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