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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 938997" data-attributes="member: 3929"><p>Drawmack:</p><p></p><p></p><p>And yet I've heard conversations about this same topic in the most redneckiest of roadhouses. So I think Joe does think about it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So motavations drive individuals. What about the motivation to do Good. Or Evil. If someone is motivated to do Good, this is reflected in their Good alignment, yesno? Even if the person doesn't think "I want to do good today", their actions towards others can show Goodness. Regardless of whether Joe ponders over G vs. E, when he helps people and does Good things... he's Good. Not thinking about if it's good or not doesn't mean Good or Evil isn't there, yeah?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sorry if I misunderstood "[remove] the grid like system as it is now". But how does Good drive Joe's life? Joe does as he thinks he should... what he thinks he should do is reflected in his alignment. If you think of alignment as a map, it just shows where a person is; the map doesn't make them stay there or force them to move. The benefit of this is that you can compare where some folks are to where others are. That, and you can determine how all those spells affect them...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Perhaps I was unclear.</p><p></p><p>By this I mean that when definitions break down, when they are inconsistent, the word loses its meaning. For example, I was recently in London. While in a pub I asked for directions to the head (meaning, of course, the bathroom). The barman had no clue what I was talking about. After a while I asked for the loo, and he pointed the way there. Point being, while in that bar "head" lost it's meaning because the same thing was called by a different name.</p><p></p><p>Similarly, if an Englander asks for a "fag" in the States (wanting a cigarette), he'll probably be looked at funny, because we don't use that word to mean a cig.</p><p></p><p>So when I say undynamic, I mean that when communication breaks down, and words and ideas lose their meaning, nothing means anything. You can't relate because different values are attached to different things.</p><p></p><p>When "nothing at all" is dynamic, I'll look it up. But then, what culture's dictionary shall I look it up in?<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Desire for genocide is being misguided? Perhaps you should use a different analogy...</p><p></p><p></p><p>And if neither has the True moral high ground? Perhaps I feel that giving the PCs the jobs as judge, jury and executioner without a definite way to check them (ie, DM changing their alignment) is a bit chancy.</p><p></p><p>Wayside:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Evil, perhaps? Why, what say you? And you don't have to tiptoe around it. I posted it.</p><p></p><p>And I'm not sure if that was sarcasm or not in your last sentence. Was it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felix, post: 938997, member: 3929"] Drawmack: And yet I've heard conversations about this same topic in the most redneckiest of roadhouses. So I think Joe does think about it. So motavations drive individuals. What about the motivation to do Good. Or Evil. If someone is motivated to do Good, this is reflected in their Good alignment, yesno? Even if the person doesn't think "I want to do good today", their actions towards others can show Goodness. Regardless of whether Joe ponders over G vs. E, when he helps people and does Good things... he's Good. Not thinking about if it's good or not doesn't mean Good or Evil isn't there, yeah? I'm sorry if I misunderstood "[remove] the grid like system as it is now". But how does Good drive Joe's life? Joe does as he thinks he should... what he thinks he should do is reflected in his alignment. If you think of alignment as a map, it just shows where a person is; the map doesn't make them stay there or force them to move. The benefit of this is that you can compare where some folks are to where others are. That, and you can determine how all those spells affect them... Perhaps I was unclear. By this I mean that when definitions break down, when they are inconsistent, the word loses its meaning. For example, I was recently in London. While in a pub I asked for directions to the head (meaning, of course, the bathroom). The barman had no clue what I was talking about. After a while I asked for the loo, and he pointed the way there. Point being, while in that bar "head" lost it's meaning because the same thing was called by a different name. Similarly, if an Englander asks for a "fag" in the States (wanting a cigarette), he'll probably be looked at funny, because we don't use that word to mean a cig. So when I say undynamic, I mean that when communication breaks down, and words and ideas lose their meaning, nothing means anything. You can't relate because different values are attached to different things. When "nothing at all" is dynamic, I'll look it up. But then, what culture's dictionary shall I look it up in?;) Desire for genocide is being misguided? Perhaps you should use a different analogy... And if neither has the True moral high ground? Perhaps I feel that giving the PCs the jobs as judge, jury and executioner without a definite way to check them (ie, DM changing their alignment) is a bit chancy. Wayside: Evil, perhaps? Why, what say you? And you don't have to tiptoe around it. I posted it. And I'm not sure if that was sarcasm or not in your last sentence. Was it? [/QUOTE]
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