New Release - After Sunset: Werewolves

[arwink]

The first release in Clockwork Golem Workshop's After Sunset product line has hit the virtual shelves this week.

After Sunset: Werewolves presents rules for playing lycanthropes as player characters, right from first level. In addition to the generic racial statistics, this product includes a specialised hero class, three new professions and nine new feats, providing options that allow werewolf chracters to explore their raw animal power over the course of the campaign. Designed for use in modern d20 games games, particularly those that want to blend supernatural creatures with king fu and heavy firepower.

Written by Peter M. Ball. Interior art by Tom Miskey.

About After Sunset​

The After Sunset line is designed to provide GMs with the tools they need to imitate hi-octane gothic-action films that merge aspects of horror with a stylized action aesthetic. Films that set aside the human everyman of classic horror, replacing him with butt-kicking kung fu masters taking on hordes of vampires or wild werewolves fighting turf wars against hordes of revenant street gangs. Watch for more After Sunset releases coming in the near future.

 

[Man-thing]

Werewolves on the prowl at: http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=5661&

 

[Twin Rose]

You know, the first couple of times you did this, it was "cute". But you're directly replying to a press release in which the publisher posted a link TO the ENGS, and you are specifically trying to take business away from that. You aren't doing anyone any favors by being rude, or trying to find loopholes in the rules, unless your intent is to offend.

I have not commented on whether or not I agree with the linking policy, but actually posting alternative purchasing links to peoples press releases is simply in bad taste. I'm going to have to insist that you allow publishers to do their business, and not try to do it for them.

 

[Man-thing]

I have not commented on whether or not I agree with the linking policy, but actually posting alternative purchasing links to peoples press releases is simply in bad taste. I'm going to have to insist that you allow publishers to do their business, and not try to do it for them.

Hmm, I would consider it in poor taste to allow press release but not links to the products.
I would also consider it in poor taste to set-up a store and feed reviews into it without permission of the review writer.

But maybe that's just me.

 

[GMSkarka]

I'm going to have to insist that you allow publishers to do their business, and not try to do it for them.

So is this now official policy?

Customers can't post links either?

Yeah....that's gonna win you some fans.

 

[Vascant]

Actually it is kind of fair what Chris is asking, he should allow publishers to put whatever information in their Press Releases they see fit.

HOWEVER...

Whats good for one is good for another, ENWorld on the same token should not restrict what can or cannot be in them either.

I can see the policy that states what is allowed in a sig or even whats to be posted but when you start forcing publishers to motify their press releases to favor a specific game store then you suddenly have some issues. Might be easier if you attempt to achieve a solid customer base with such things as good customer service and business practices rather then attempting to sieze a customer base.

(Edit)
Don't get me wrong, I understand you are just trying to run a business. One of my big worries is how this will effect things down the road, say the ENnies for example. If you feel it is in your best interest to tell people what they can and cannot put in a press release, you might get the good idea, ENGS Products winning ENnies would be an even better one, since the added sales that come from such an award could be nice.

I don't know what has me more concerned over the business plan, the fact you have one and this was missed or you have one and this all part of it.

 

[GMSkarka]

Might be easier if you attempt to achieve a solid customer base with such things as good customer service and business practices rather then attempting to sieze a customer base.

Exactly. I know of quite a few of the more successful PDF publishers (my own company included), who would have been more likely to give ENGS a shot immediately if the strong-arm tactic wasn't in effect. As it is right now, signing up (even ignoring the results of the poll regarding customer purchase habits), would feel a bit too much like rewarding that sort of behavior.

Attracting more flies with honey than with vinegar, and all that.....

 

[DanMcS]

You know, the first couple of times you did this, it was "cute". But you're directly replying to a press release in which the publisher posted a link TO the ENGS, and you are specifically trying to take business away from that. You aren't doing anyone any favors by being rude, or trying to find loopholes in the rules, unless your intent is to offend.

A loophole is something allowed by the letter of the rules but against the intent of them. Morrus specifically said that his new rules only applied to publishers, not to users, because he didn't want to restrict commentary and discussion, this being a friendly news and community site and all. Ergo, not a loophole.

I have not commented on whether or not I agree with the linking policy,

Well, you wouldn't need to, you work for the store.

 

[Twin Rose]

My point is that in many cases, publishers are paying a lower comission rate at the ENGS, and have also paid their activation fee. If they choose to link to the ENGS in their press release, and not their website (or both) then it is very well possible that they want to make sales based on that lower comission rate. Posting links in reply to their press release directing people to a place that they pay a higher rate seems to be harmful to the publisher.

 

[Man-thing]

Thanks, that wasn't clear from your first post. Also, I cannot read the minds or intents of any publisher. I am simply trying to provide links to other venues. If any publisher contacts me and wishes me to remove the link I will do so immediately.