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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 879772" data-attributes="member: 111">Except in the case of oddball AoO chains.  The first action in time (because AoO's go first)  can set things up so that the first attempted action cannot even be attempted.  A Paradox.True - for a single event this is easy.Yes, yes - my mistake.  My point still holds, though.Okay, so my example was messed up.  The point remains - it is quite possible to have AoO recursive events now. For a single event and it's AoO the logic and mechanics hold up juyst fine - it starts to break down for mutiple events with the same two people.You could have, say, 6 events (3 by each person)  Event 1 triggers AoO1 , which triggers AoO 2 which, in turn, triggers AoO 3 then AoO 4 then AoO 5 and finally AoO 6.6 interrupts 5, and it might be that Event 1 is no longer possible because, say, the target was disarmed or grappled or something.  Paradox - you can't have 6 without 1 through 5 being attempted, but 6 creates the situaion where 1 cannot even be attempted.Let's run though a very simple example.  Let's assume that A attempts to grapple B.  B in turn atempts to disarm A, who attempts to to break B's weapon, who attempts to grapple (and pin) A.If B is succesfull pinning A, then A  is clearly prevented from breaking B's weapon.  But, given that A is pinned, A cannot even begin the sequence of events that leads up to him failing to be able to attempt to break B's weapon.Of course, it's also possible to set up a sequence of events that never ends if the repeated event rule does not apply to distinct event that happen to have the same name - such as grapple attempts in response to grapple events which were, in turn, in reponse to a grapple event.   Even if the rule does apply, you could do other actions before repeating one and easily become confused.It's just plain silly.  Just running though these examples makes my head hurt!  If you can only get one AoO per person with Combat Reflexes there is no issue.You are right, though, that if you are restricted to simple melee attacks (a weapon strike only) the problem goes away, but so do many of your combat options.</blockquote>

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