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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5199847" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p><strong>First</strong>, I wouldn't call my approach RAW-based. Its actually based on the way people actually learn things, game balance, and the game's internal logic.</p><p></p><p><strong>Second</strong>, I fail to see how the Simple/Complex/Exotic mechanic should influence my opinion on multiclassing. Its a mechanic very divorced from actual learning/practice; very artificial. AU/AE spellcasters learn entire classes of spells at once (as if they have a security passkey that opens all doors of a specific clearance level), whereas D&D spellcasters are learning specific spells (they have to acquire a distinct key for each and every door they can access). I see it as a consequence of the different underlying nature of magic itself in the AU/AE setting, like the lack of an arcane/divine dichotomy. There are different expectations. I'd expect "multiclassing" to look different in a variety of settings, each depending upon its own internal logic. Magic in D&D is different (slightly) from magic in AU/AE, both of which differ from magic in Harry Turtledove's Darkness novels or of a typical comic book spellcaster.</p><p></p><p>Look at the magic system in Stormbringer. You can "multiclass" and your spellcasting isn't really limited by what other skills you chose to learn, just by what you choose to use or lie fallow. And furthermore, if you don't start out with the ability to do magic, its incredibly unlikely that you'll ever be able to work even the simplest of spells- you either "have it" or you don't.</p><p></p><p><strong>Third</strong> (having looked over my AU but not my AE rulebooks, which are still out on loan) even in this system, Caster Level ≠ PC level. Your Caster Level = your levels in all casting classes (p71). IOW, a Magister5/Akashik15 casts as a 5th level caster. A Magister5/Mage Blade10 casts as a 15th level caster. Furthermore, that Mage Blade would only have access to Complex spells of 5th level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5199847, member: 19675"] [B]First[/B], I wouldn't call my approach RAW-based. Its actually based on the way people actually learn things, game balance, and the game's internal logic. [B]Second[/B], I fail to see how the Simple/Complex/Exotic mechanic should influence my opinion on multiclassing. Its a mechanic very divorced from actual learning/practice; very artificial. AU/AE spellcasters learn entire classes of spells at once (as if they have a security passkey that opens all doors of a specific clearance level), whereas D&D spellcasters are learning specific spells (they have to acquire a distinct key for each and every door they can access). I see it as a consequence of the different underlying nature of magic itself in the AU/AE setting, like the lack of an arcane/divine dichotomy. There are different expectations. I'd expect "multiclassing" to look different in a variety of settings, each depending upon its own internal logic. Magic in D&D is different (slightly) from magic in AU/AE, both of which differ from magic in Harry Turtledove's Darkness novels or of a typical comic book spellcaster. Look at the magic system in Stormbringer. You can "multiclass" and your spellcasting isn't really limited by what other skills you chose to learn, just by what you choose to use or lie fallow. And furthermore, if you don't start out with the ability to do magic, its incredibly unlikely that you'll ever be able to work even the simplest of spells- you either "have it" or you don't. [B]Third[/B] (having looked over my AU but not my AE rulebooks, which are still out on loan) even in this system, Caster Level ≠ PC level. Your Caster Level = your levels in all casting classes (p71). IOW, a Magister5/Akashik15 casts as a 5th level caster. A Magister5/Mage Blade10 casts as a 15th level caster. Furthermore, that Mage Blade would only have access to Complex spells of 5th level. [/QUOTE]
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