Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
New rule of 3 . Feb 21.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="GM Dave" data-source="post: 5827554" data-attributes="member: 6687992"><p>The stated initial goal of 5e is to cover all the classes that have been printed in the initial core books of each game edition (with the exception of the race classes like Hobbit, Dwarf, and Elf ~ And yes, I know they are now called Halflings but that came after the Tolkein lawsuit).</p><p></p><p>That makes the Paladin in and Warden and Swordmage out.</p><p></p><p>Personally, the Warden is one of the best of the new classes to come along in a while and like the class but I know that I will likely have to wait for it to see it returned to the game.</p><p></p><p>The article was focused on fighters because of the original question was a follow up to a question from the DDXP seminar. That does not preclude interest in the other classes. It was just the focus of the answer as phrased by the initial question.</p><p></p><p>The article mentioned 4e powers as a module and the fighter 'aura' as a main schtick that other classes might like to have access to using.</p><p></p><p>This is actually pointing out things that the designers like of the 4e system but wondering on where to put these things.</p><p></p><p>Powers or Feats could be modules that add to a fighters abilities but in the lowest level of the game they won't be wanted. This leaves the need for 'something' to give the Fighter a unique flavour that attracts players.</p><p></p><p>Marking is seen as something that not only the Fighter but possibly the Paladin or Warlord might like to do (not sure which archetypes are being referred in the article as others liking to borrow this mechanic). Marking might also be broadened to have a connection with the Strikers or their new incarnation for things like the Warlock Curse.</p><p></p><p>It is still too soon to tell.</p><p></p><p>I did see a game report by roleplayingtips.com which discussed their playtest of the rules as sent to them.</p><p></p><p>Character creation took 1 hr.</p><p></p><p>The rules were described as still being bare bones and raw.</p><p></p><p>I think accusations can wait for more information to come out from playtests and to see how those playtests form the next round of the rules cycle of development.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GM Dave, post: 5827554, member: 6687992"] The stated initial goal of 5e is to cover all the classes that have been printed in the initial core books of each game edition (with the exception of the race classes like Hobbit, Dwarf, and Elf ~ And yes, I know they are now called Halflings but that came after the Tolkein lawsuit). That makes the Paladin in and Warden and Swordmage out. Personally, the Warden is one of the best of the new classes to come along in a while and like the class but I know that I will likely have to wait for it to see it returned to the game. The article was focused on fighters because of the original question was a follow up to a question from the DDXP seminar. That does not preclude interest in the other classes. It was just the focus of the answer as phrased by the initial question. The article mentioned 4e powers as a module and the fighter 'aura' as a main schtick that other classes might like to have access to using. This is actually pointing out things that the designers like of the 4e system but wondering on where to put these things. Powers or Feats could be modules that add to a fighters abilities but in the lowest level of the game they won't be wanted. This leaves the need for 'something' to give the Fighter a unique flavour that attracts players. Marking is seen as something that not only the Fighter but possibly the Paladin or Warlord might like to do (not sure which archetypes are being referred in the article as others liking to borrow this mechanic). Marking might also be broadened to have a connection with the Strikers or their new incarnation for things like the Warlock Curse. It is still too soon to tell. I did see a game report by roleplayingtips.com which discussed their playtest of the rules as sent to them. Character creation took 1 hr. The rules were described as still being bare bones and raw. I think accusations can wait for more information to come out from playtests and to see how those playtests form the next round of the rules cycle of development. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
New rule of 3 . Feb 21.
Top