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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 6255258" data-attributes="member: 20323">The thing is...Was this getting caught the result of a single check or entire challenge?Who gets caught?Who does the catching?What are the circumstances in which the person is caught?Where and when does the catching go down?What are the consequences for getting caught?*What you see as being an obvious thing, I see as very much not obvious. I mean, if you asked the same question about combat: when the PCs fail a combat challenge, it's obvious what happens: they get killed or unconscious, right? I would answer &quot;don't know, it depends on the combat and whether there was some objective besides kill team monster / kill team PC.&quot;Does that make sense?So I see &quot;Failing Forward&quot; as recognizing the difference between judging the results of a failure on a check vs. a challenge first of all. It also means when serious failure happens that it still presents meaningful interesting choices for the players (unless it really is a TPK situation). So what would happen if the PCs were all caught? What about just one PC?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 6255258, member: 20323"] The thing is... Was this getting caught the result of a single check or entire challenge? Who gets caught? Who does the catching? What are the circumstances in which the person is caught? Where and when does the catching go down? What are the consequences for getting caught?* What you see as being an obvious thing, I see as very much not obvious. I mean, if you asked the same question about combat: when the PCs fail a combat challenge, it's obvious what happens: they get killed or unconscious, right? I would answer "don't know, it depends on the combat and whether there was some objective besides kill team monster / kill team PC." Does that make sense? So I see "Failing Forward" as recognizing the difference between judging the results of a failure on a check vs. a challenge first of all. It also means when serious failure happens that it still presents meaningful interesting choices for the players (unless it really is a TPK situation). So what would happen if the PCs were all caught? What about just one PC? [/QUOTE]

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