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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7676166" data-attributes="member: 20564">I disagree with the shillalagh rulling strongly.  The result I disagree with weakly because I think the PHB rules are open to interpretation, but the logic how he arrived at the rules is incorrect by the PHB.Sage Advice:  "If I cast shillelagh on my quarterstaff and have the Polearm Master feat, does the bonus attack use a d4 or a d8 for damage? The bonus attack uses a d4. That attack is a function of the feat, not the weapon being used."The wording of the feat: "When you take the Attack action and attack with only a glaive, halberd, or quarterstaff, you can use a bonus action to make a melee attack with the opposite end of the weapon. The weapon’s damage die for this attack is a d4, and the attack deals bludgeoning damage."The PHB clearly lists this as the weapon's damage die.  It is not the feat's damage die as listed in Sage Advice.  As a side note, the SA ruling would also mean that since it's the feat and not the weapon doing the damage, they wouldn't get to apply the other benefits of Shillalagh such as using your casting stat instead of Strength or that the weapon counts as magic since you're not actually using the weapon, you're using a feat that you can use because you just so happen to have the weapon.  Actually, looking at just general usage of Polearm Master, the SA ruling would mean that magic of the weapon wouldn't help and you couldn't use any bonuses or other feats that apply to weapon attacks, since it's NOT a weapon attack, it's a feat attack.  Luckily none of that is supported by the PHB.On if the die is d4 or d8, here is the relevant part of Shillalagh:"For the duration, you can use your spellcasting ability instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of melee attacks using that weapon, and the weapon's damage die becomes a d8."Since Polearm Master grants you a weapon damage die, and this then takes an existing damage die and modifies it, I would say this does work.  But there could be discussion about "order of operations" so that could be wrong.  To me the order of operations is clear - shillalagh modifies an existing weapon damage die, so it comes after that gets assigned be it by wielding a weapon (club = d6) or via the feat.  But again, that's not as clear cut.</blockquote>

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