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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 1800959" data-attributes="member: 259">Okay, I find the maneuverability rules for flying creatures to be absurdly complicated,and I can never remember how they work, and I still don't understand exactly how many circles a creature with (say) average maneuverability can turn in a single round.&nbsp; They drive me crazy.&nbsp;I was thinking today:&nbsp; why not introduce a new skill, Fly, that's useable only by creatures with a fly speed?&nbsp; Just like tumbling, it'd have different DCs for different maneuvers, such as:&nbsp;-Turn 45 degrees in a round: 5-Turn 90 degrees in a round:&nbsp; 10-Turn 180 degrees in a round:&nbsp; 15-Hover:&nbsp; 20-Fly straight up:&nbsp; 25-Fly backwards:&nbsp; 30&nbsp;That sort of thing. &nbsp;Make it a dex-based skill, useable untrained (if, for example, you find a pair of Boots of Flying or something), and give different spells and items a bonus to the skill as appropriate.&nbsp; Give flying creatures ranks in fly, and you're good to go:&nbsp; by adding in an extra skill, you've streamlined the system by removing a whole subsystem.&nbsp;Whaddy'all think?&nbsp;Daniel</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 1800959, member: 259"] Okay, I find the maneuverability rules for flying creatures to be absurdly complicated,and I can never remember how they work, and I still don't understand exactly how many circles a creature with (say) average maneuverability can turn in a single round. They drive me crazy. I was thinking today: why not introduce a new skill, Fly, that's useable only by creatures with a fly speed? Just like tumbling, it'd have different DCs for different maneuvers, such as: -Turn 45 degrees in a round: 5 -Turn 90 degrees in a round: 10 -Turn 180 degrees in a round: 15 -Hover: 20 -Fly straight up: 25 -Fly backwards: 30 That sort of thing. Make it a dex-based skill, useable untrained (if, for example, you find a pair of Boots of Flying or something), and give different spells and items a bonus to the skill as appropriate. Give flying creatures ranks in fly, and you're good to go: by adding in an extra skill, you've streamlined the system by removing a whole subsystem. Whaddy'all think? Daniel [/QUOTE]

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