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<blockquote data-quote="yennico" data-source="post: 939721" data-attributes="member: 11978">Harmless *lol* in combat situations. I don´t think so. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I need some clarification:If an wizard casts this spell on a large monster with high natural armor with reach, but size penalities on his AC. Which stats and abilities are affected ?The Monsters ability scores are unaffected ? His special abilities are unaffected ?His natural armor is unaffected.His reach is reduced. His size Modifier is reduced. I´m thinking about a large demon with very high strength to boost his AC shrinked to medium <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> or a human spellcaster shrinked because of the better AC to the size of a gnome or halfling <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />IMHO if you change the size category of a monster you also must change the ability scores....If with your spell changes the size category and the ability scores of a target this spell is a more powerful spell then reduce and enlarge. This changed spell is IMHO nearly as powerful as polymorph. The only differnce is that the polymporph spell steals the special abilities of a target creature.&nbsp; &nbsp;Just my 2 centsyennico</blockquote>

[QUOTE="yennico, post: 939721, member: 11978"] Harmless *lol* in combat situations. I don´t think so. :) I need some clarification: If an wizard casts this spell on a large monster with high natural armor with reach, but size penalities on his AC. Which stats and abilities are affected ? The Monsters ability scores are unaffected ? His special abilities are unaffected ? His natural armor is unaffected. His reach is reduced. His size Modifier is reduced. I´m thinking about a large demon with very high strength to boost his AC shrinked to medium :D or a human spellcaster shrinked because of the better AC to the size of a gnome or halfling :) IMHO if you change the size category of a monster you also must change the ability scores.... If with your spell changes the size category and the ability scores of a target this spell is a more powerful spell then reduce and enlarge. This changed spell is IMHO nearly as powerful as polymorph. The only differnce is that the polymporph spell steals the special abilities of a target creature. Just my 2 cents yennico [/QUOTE]

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