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<blockquote data-quote="Magus_Jerel" data-source="post: 141369" data-attributes="member: 3940"><p>The school and spell descriptiors are right... but compare to confusion at 4th level?</p><p></p><p>no way dude - Compare this to Otto's Irresistable dance at 8th level.</p><p></p><p>Otto's Dance requires a touch attack - but awards no save.</p><p>Your spell awards a will save. that is alright I guess, when it comes to balance, in that there is a chance the spell won't work.</p><p></p><p>But - that is where it ends.</p><p></p><p>if you lose the temporary wisdom damage - the spell's effects are practically identical in all but what the subject acutally does. In terms of game effect, this is slightly better as you render the reflex save outright impossible, instead of only on a natural 20</p><p></p><p>Otto's dance can hit only one target - but this can hit multiple targets.</p><p></p><p>The duration of the dance is MUCH shorter.</p><p></p><p>This thing works at range - with Otto's Dance - you have to get up close and personal.</p><p></p><p>Now - you are wanting an effect like Otto's dance, on multiple targets, and you want to add in 1d4 wisdom damage?</p><p></p><p>Just isn't going to happen. Sorry. Back to the drawing board.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magus_Jerel, post: 141369, member: 3940"] The school and spell descriptiors are right... but compare to confusion at 4th level? no way dude - Compare this to Otto's Irresistable dance at 8th level. Otto's Dance requires a touch attack - but awards no save. Your spell awards a will save. that is alright I guess, when it comes to balance, in that there is a chance the spell won't work. But - that is where it ends. if you lose the temporary wisdom damage - the spell's effects are practically identical in all but what the subject acutally does. In terms of game effect, this is slightly better as you render the reflex save outright impossible, instead of only on a natural 20 Otto's dance can hit only one target - but this can hit multiple targets. The duration of the dance is MUCH shorter. This thing works at range - with Otto's Dance - you have to get up close and personal. Now - you are wanting an effect like Otto's dance, on multiple targets, and you want to add in 1d4 wisdom damage? Just isn't going to happen. Sorry. Back to the drawing board. [/QUOTE]
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