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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jimlock" data-source="post: 5592548" data-attributes="member: 6674931">not exactly...here's the one I've got(exact copy from some Dragon Mag.) :It clearly can be used both before and after... whenever you want actually.Perhaps you have some other version from the internet... (?)...By the way, i now noticed that the DC is 10!Sounds a bit too easy... but then again it's only a cantrip... so it's probably better at 10.....then again it's a little poor for a 1st Lvl ranger spell....(uffff...don't know)Now, assuming that the Save Fails (both times)with VM a rider with a Ride Skill of 5 has an 80% chance (from 5 to 20 on a d20) to make it.With a second VM in a row: 80% X 80% = 64% chance of making both rolls.With your spell, the same rider has a 55% (from 10 to 20 on a d20) chance to make it.And with a second attempt in a row: 55% X 55% = 30% of making it..With the second roll having a DC20 (30%: the rider requires a 15 to 20 on a d20)After two rolls: 55% x 30% = 16% chance of making both rolls.... Now that's perhaps too low for a cantrip...Personally: I'd keep it at 10, and would certainly allow a second one in a row... perhaps with a DC 15...or a 10 still...not sure yet...Something that needs fixing: Duration -> For how long does the horse retain this crazed/fleeing state?minute/level sounds ok... thoughts?As far as the material component goes, I like yours a lot better!!! <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses    B-)" data-shortname="B-)" /></blockquote>

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