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<blockquote data-quote="JimAde" data-source="post: 2233583" data-attributes="member: 16739">Well it's notably less nasty than Evard's Black Tentacles, so level should be below 4th level.The final level depends on the duration and so on, but I'd lean toward 2nd level.&nbsp; I think it's comparable to Web as far as controlling the battlefield.&nbsp; It is able to do damage (unlike Web) but is also easier to evade.&nbsp; I'm a little confused by the description because it sounds like a creature at some points, and like a spell effect at others.&nbsp; How do you treat it?&nbsp; Does it have a limited number of normal attacks based on its BAB, or does it automatically get to attack everybody in its reac on its turn?Just a note: The +4 for unusually stable only applies to defending against trips, not tripping others.&nbsp; If you just want to say it has improved trip, though, it has the same effect, and I assume you don't want this thing to provoke AoO when it trips, right?&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="JimAde, post: 2233583, member: 16739"] Well it's notably less nasty than Evard's Black Tentacles, so level should be below 4th level. The final level depends on the duration and so on, but I'd lean toward 2nd level. I think it's comparable to Web as far as controlling the battlefield. It is able to do damage (unlike Web) but is also easier to evade. I'm a little confused by the description because it sounds like a creature at some points, and like a spell effect at others. How do you treat it? Does it have a limited number of normal attacks based on its BAB, or does it automatically get to attack everybody in its reac on its turn? Just a note: The +4 for unusually stable only applies to defending against trips, not tripping others. If you just want to say it has improved trip, though, it has the same effect, and I assume you don't want this thing to provoke AoO when it trips, right? :) [/QUOTE]

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