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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 2967388" data-attributes="member: 14159">I think making force push, or similar powers, grant a Dark Side Point when used is rooted in Yoda's teachings in Episode V: "A Jedi uses the Force for Knowledge and Defense, never for Attack".  We see Palpatine and Vader crush windpipes and throw lightning.  We very rarely seee Jedi use the Force to directly attack, Qui-Gon throwing Battle Droids aside and Yoda quickly smacking down two Royal Guard and duelling Palpatine with force-thrown objects being the big examples.  Thus, Jedi rarely do it, probably because it's way too easy to cross over to the Dark Side if you get used to using it to attack, and Yoda was giving a stern warning to Luke.  Perhaps with more years of training Yoda would have explained the exceptions to his warning, but as a general rule, attacking with the Force is a Dark Side action.The Jedi Counselling column on the WotC site had a good way to model this, an optional rule that every time a character performs an act that would gather a Dark Side Point, they have to make a Will save to avoid the point, with the difficulty rising sharply depending on the nature of the act.  Thus, a Jedi Master might be able to get away with throwing two guardsmen around with the Force and engaging in an epic duel with a Sith Master which involves telekinetic combat, while a brash and angry Jedi apprentice who is already being actively tempted by the Dark Side like Luke would likely get a DSP for force-choking a pair of Gammorean guards when other ways to get by them would have been more appropriate.</blockquote>

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