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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 9421366" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>Here’s my interpretation of that case, completely setting aside any assumptions based on the condition being called “invisible” and going purely based on the effects it describes.</p><p></p><p>A rogue is behind total cover from the perspective of a guard with passive perception 16. The rogue uses hee action to hide, and gets a total of 18 on the check, so she gains the “invisible” condition, and 18 becomes the target number on perception checks to end the condition. She gains the following benefits while the condition lasts:</p><p></p><p>1. Advantage on initiative rolls</p><p>2. She is unaffected by anything that requires her to be seen, unless the source of the effect can see her (a bit tautological in this instance, but ok.)</p><p>3. She has advantage on attack rolls against targets that can’t see her, and targets that can’t see her have disadvantage on attack rolls against her.</p><p></p><p>While she and the guard remain in place, all of these benefits are relevant. If the guard moves to a position from which she does not have total cover, he will be able to see her. He will therefore be able to affect her with effects that require him to see her (again, tautological but fine), and he will not have disadvantage on attacks against her, nor will she have advantage on attacks against him. However, if he initiates combat, she will still have advantage on her initiative roll. He could, however, use his action to “search” and make a perception check, and if he got an 18 or higher, the condition would end and she would no longer have advantage on her initiative roll.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 9421366, member: 6779196"] Here’s my interpretation of that case, completely setting aside any assumptions based on the condition being called “invisible” and going purely based on the effects it describes. A rogue is behind total cover from the perspective of a guard with passive perception 16. The rogue uses hee action to hide, and gets a total of 18 on the check, so she gains the “invisible” condition, and 18 becomes the target number on perception checks to end the condition. She gains the following benefits while the condition lasts: 1. Advantage on initiative rolls 2. She is unaffected by anything that requires her to be seen, unless the source of the effect can see her (a bit tautological in this instance, but ok.) 3. She has advantage on attack rolls against targets that can’t see her, and targets that can’t see her have disadvantage on attack rolls against her. While she and the guard remain in place, all of these benefits are relevant. If the guard moves to a position from which she does not have total cover, he will be able to see her. He will therefore be able to affect her with effects that require him to see her (again, tautological but fine), and he will not have disadvantage on attacks against her, nor will she have advantage on attacks against him. However, if he initiates combat, she will still have advantage on her initiative roll. He could, however, use his action to “search” and make a perception check, and if he got an 18 or higher, the condition would end and she would no longer have advantage on her initiative roll. [/QUOTE]
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