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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9422752" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Invisibility never made you "impossible to see", not only because there were ways to see invisible creatures, but because of blindsight, tremorsense, and other special senses.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As much as I joke about people reading the rules like robots, you aren't actually a robot who is incapable of doing anything that is not RAW. The rules as intended are blatantly obvious here. If you were hiding, and you stand in front of someone, you are no longer hiding. The entire problem you have is that the interpretation you are running with makes no sense. Yet you keep insisting it is the only possible result.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If they can see you with their functioning eyeballs, they have found you. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But magical invisibility should stop working when people with blindsight "See" you, or when people with Tremorsense "see" you, or when people with the ability to see through illusions "see" you. So they would BOTH have to stop working when people can "see" them, they just have different things that can see them. </p><p></p><p>Perfectly functional eyeballs can't pierce the Invisibility spell. True Sight can't pierce a clay pot. Tremorsense sees both of you if you are standing on the ground.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is literally exactly what stealth IS. If you are hidden, you cannot be seen. Definitionally.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9422752, member: 6801228"] Invisibility never made you "impossible to see", not only because there were ways to see invisible creatures, but because of blindsight, tremorsense, and other special senses. As much as I joke about people reading the rules like robots, you aren't actually a robot who is incapable of doing anything that is not RAW. The rules as intended are blatantly obvious here. If you were hiding, and you stand in front of someone, you are no longer hiding. The entire problem you have is that the interpretation you are running with makes no sense. Yet you keep insisting it is the only possible result. If they can see you with their functioning eyeballs, they have found you. But magical invisibility should stop working when people with blindsight "See" you, or when people with Tremorsense "see" you, or when people with the ability to see through illusions "see" you. So they would BOTH have to stop working when people can "see" them, they just have different things that can see them. Perfectly functional eyeballs can't pierce the Invisibility spell. True Sight can't pierce a clay pot. Tremorsense sees both of you if you are standing on the ground. That is literally exactly what stealth IS. If you are hidden, you cannot be seen. Definitionally. [/QUOTE]
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