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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 9423549" data-attributes="member: 6779196">That made sense in the 2014 rules, when there were rules for the benefits of hiding that were distinct from the benefits of being invisible - you might be invisible, and therefore have advantage on attacks against creatures that can’t see you, and those creatures might have disadvantage on attacks against you, but that didn’t mean they weren’t aware of your location, which would require hiding (which would be easier to do than normal, since you needed to be unseen to hide). But now, the benefits of hiding are that you become invisible. So if becoming invisible doesn’t also mean enemies don’t know your location, then there’s no rules mechanism for how you can make your location unknown to enemies.Whether or not it’s magical is kind of incidental to the actual question - can you be seen by creatures that lack any special senses while you have the invisible condition? If yes, that makes the invisibility spell pretty strange, since it doesn’t do the one thing you would expect magical invisibility to do. If no, that makes the hide action pretty dumb, since special senses shouldn’t be required to see a creature that is just hiding. Especially if they aren’t concealed or covered in any way, which the hide action does not say you need to do to retain the invisible condition.</blockquote>