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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thommy H-H" data-source="post: 9423581" data-attributes="member: 6797019">Yes, though they weren't wearing armour at the time or carrying a backpack full of healing potions.More broadly: yes, it seems counterintuitive that someone sneaking up like this would be "invisible", but the actual in-game effect of that is that they get advantage on an attack roll. Which seems proportionate? If a PC says they're moving in such a way as to make no sound louder than a whisper in order to get the drop on a guard, then I'm happy to make a judgment about how possible that is, and if I deem it is possible, they get the advantage. After which, they are no longer Invisible, because they've made an attack roll. And if they just stand there for some reason, there's nothing in the Invisible condition's rules that says the guard doesn't know they're there and can't take a swing at them, they just do it with disadvantage.At worst, the net effect of all this is giving advantage or disadvantage on a couple of attack rolls, which seems a fair trade off for taking the trouble to take the Hide action. Everyone's fixating on the precise wording of the Hide action, while applying a general understanding of what is meant by invisible. You have to read what Invisible actually does in game terms, not what you think it ought to do in your imagination.</blockquote>