Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9425342" data-attributes="member: 6801228">It is pretty simple in my mind. Whether or not the text explicitly states it in 100% unambigious clear language... if you don't have the conditions needed to hide, you are no longer invisible. Rushing from cover into a pitch black room? Okay, you are still invisible. Crawling on the ceiling behind someone who doesn't turn around and look up? Okay, you are still invisible. The spell says you have the condition. Period. No other conditions needed to maintain it, except the spell remains active. And, technically, this can be supported in the rules. Hiding stops working if a creature (referred to an an enemy) finds you, the invisibility condition does not end this way, it only loses the benefits against a creature that can somehow see you. If you stop interpreting that as requiring a search action only, and instead look at it as requiring a perception check, then this falls together. Every skill check in 5e (and this is still 5e and these rules are still in the book) is only rolled if the outcome is uncertain. If the outcome is not uncertain, then a roll is not needed because the check automatically succeeds or fails. You immediately fail an athletics check to jump to the moon. You immediately succeed a perception check to see someone standing in an empty hallway directly in front of you. Why doesn't this work for invisibility the spell? Because it doesn't need any other conditions to function. It just grants you the status of not being seen. Yes, nothing states that the spell makes you translucent, but we know that is the intent, and that it is also still flexible enough to cover other thematically appropriate versions of invisibility, such as a psychic shroud or being covered in wind spirits. Because at the end of the day[ATTACH=full]375285[/ATTACH]Whether it is from cover or being translucent, the invisible condition looks the same to an observer. The only difference is, if you stop trying to hide, the enemy can find you without any real effort, because you have stopped attempting to hide from them.</blockquote>

Verification