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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9425996" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Okay, good so farNo it does not. Hiding gives the invisible condition, however that condition breaks when an enemy finds you. The spell does not break when an enemy finds you. So, explicitly per the rules of hiding that govern how you have the invisible condition, being in their line of sight, ie finding you, ends the condition. Meanwhile, the spell ends under different conditions.Perhaps a visual demonstration. Invisible[ATTACH=full]375445[/ATTACH]Visible [ATTACH=full]375446[/ATTACH]It truly is as simple as that.It doesn't need to state that you cannot be seen with normal vision, because there are many different types of invisibility. For example, we know for a fact, per RAW, that there exists an ability that makes you invisible by merely creating psychic static. The Soul Knife's Psychic Veil: You can weave a veil of psychic static to mask yourself. As an action, you can magically become invisible, along with anything you are wearing or carrying, for 1 hour or until you dismiss this effect (no action required). This invisibility ends early immediately after you deal damage to a creature or you force a creature to make a saving throw.Can you be seen with normal vision in this instance? Yes, the eye picks up the light that bounces off your body. However, the mind cannot perceive your form. Invisibility the condition granted through abilities such as this do not rely on not being found. Note that nothing in the ability states that it breaks if you are found. Unlike the conditional invisibility granted by the hide action, which again[ATTACH=full]375447[/ATTACH]While hidden, you are effectively for all purposes, invisible. There is no difference in this image if the man is hiding, or if he were wearing a cloak of invisibility, or if you were simply unable to mentally register his presence. The effect, the condition, is the same.</blockquote>

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