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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WanderingMystic" data-source="post: 9426806" data-attributes="member: 69157">[USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER] The PHB give you enough information to make an informed choice on what character you want to play. The game is a collaboration between players and the DM so yes if you are playing in a game the DM should then tell you what gods you can choose from. The idea that you should have all of those gods listed in a PHB is ridiculous. That information is setting information and has no place in a setting neutral book. Even if they put some gods in there it would not be complete and would end up being more confusing for players when they told their DM that they have already chosen their God only to be told that that God doesn't exist in the game they are playing As far as what bonuses or penalties you may or may not have in a given situation the DM has always had the ability to give out situational modifiers and those are usually left to be determined by the DM so once again not something that needs to or should be in the player section of the rules. Rpgs in general are a collaboration between the DM and the players so you need to talk with each other. Are you thinking about playing a rogue who sneaks up in front of people so they can stab them and look them in the eyes well when you let your DM know about your character they will say yeah I don't want hide to work like that (regardless of the actual rules the DM can always say that that is not how it will work in their games.)</blockquote>

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