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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OB1" data-source="post: 9430241" data-attributes="member: 6796241">[USER=6932123]@Kinematics[/USER] but how do you determine when you are found?  What I'm trying to solve for is how to allow the invisible condition for it's basic purpose (Surprise, Adv on attack, avoiding opportunity attack) w/o an additional roll to resolve the uncertainty that is there if you move out of your hiding spot.  The only time you are rolling again is if you move and you want to be hidden again (in which case you would need to satisfy the requirements).  So if in the middle of combat, you're trying to sneak around to get to the Altar of Doom to remove the Demon Crystal so that Oban the Destroyer can't be summoned, and it takes several turns to get to the altar, you would need to hide each turn, which seems reasonable to me because the circumstances of each attempt at hiding would be slightly different.  This takes all of the subjectivity over if you are found or not out of the equation.  Keep succeeding on the checks, and the enemy doesn't notice you headed for the Altar.  But again, and this is important, if the intent is to be stealthy while moving (slip past the guards, sneak up to a campsite, etc) you aren't Hiding.  In those cases, you're making a Dex (Stealth) roll to determine the outcome of what you are trying to do.  That could be one roll that covers several minutes of time, with the results being either you succeeded, or you failed.  On the other hand, if you hear guards coming down the hallway and take the Hide action, then wait for them to be within 30' of you, it's only one check.  You can either let them move past you, or attack, in which case you'd have advantage on initiative and get advantage on that first attack you make when you come out of cover.All of this is to say that I'm willing to extend the Invisible Condition granted by succeeding at the Hide action for an additional 6 seconds when it's your turn if you leave your hiding spot, but not past that.  For regular infilitration during an exploration scene, which isn't broken down into individual rounds and turns, a single roll against a DC set by the DM resolves the situation.</blockquote>

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