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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9023111" data-attributes="member: 93670">I think that the numbers in those templates themselves  caused a good bit of their well deserved scorn.  Look at the AC... 10+wis?... so by the time a druid has enough wis to be closing in on the starting AC of a level one  paladin rolling up to their first session the paladin in that same packet is almost certainly in plate or better.  1d8+wis  for attacks & use your base HP on top of that is just sad.  It lacks defense lacks offense. It lacks durability.... The templates are so bad mechanically that it's almost as if numbers were chosen to ensure they polled poorly.  Adding the ability to cast abjuration spells that would mainly need to come from multiclassing only serves to highlight the absence of good in the templates that might have been capable of making up the difference in a way that creates some kind of niche.</blockquote>