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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9023262" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>Couple good reasons</p><p><strong>Reason one:</strong></p><p>It doesn't require paladin specific class abilities or magic items, just mundane equipment that many classes can start the game with.</p><p><strong>Reason two:</strong></p><p>Because the packet was called UA-2023-DruidandPaladin making the two classes a pair that was released in Tandem. Bard & rogue were in a different packet & could have been targeting a different assumed power level or the druid & paladin packet could have been aimed at a different power level than that earlier packet after crunching feedback they got. </p><p></p><p><strong>Reason three</strong>:</p><p>You could compare it to any of the playtest packet classes we have so far & still walk away with nothing but "uhh... I'm trying and not seeing <em>any</em> niche" they were aiming for. Also being in wildshape effectively cuts off casting simply because the "abjuration spells" ability on page 8 of that packet only allows casting of the following spells levels one to nine: "<em>cure wounds, healing word, Lesser restoration, prayer of healing, beacon of hope, dispel magic, remove curse, aura of life, aura of purity, death ward, circle of power, mass cure wounds, heal, mass heal, power word heal</em>" due to limiting options to abjuration spells with no material component. Nothing about gp value of that component, simply "<em><u><strong>a</strong></u></em> material component".</p><p></p><p>Given how limited that 15 spell list is a wildshaped moon druid is so extremely constrained as a caster that it might be a stretch to say that functionally they even rise to the level of simply being as good a caster as a paladin.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[USER=6801228]@Chaosmancer[/USER] That's not the point I was making. That point is how the execution is so awful it gives the impression of someone trying to lower poll results for that idea. I guess it's also possible that the playtest druid was still paying for the sins of the 3.x CoDzilla as an alternate but that druid struggles to present itself as a class with <em>any</em> niche beyond "Alice showed up so we are letting her play her moon druid with us because it's the class she wants to play... <em>still..</em>".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9023262, member: 93670"] Couple good reasons [B]Reason one:[/B] It doesn't require paladin specific class abilities or magic items, just mundane equipment that many classes can start the game with. [B]Reason two:[/B] Because the packet was called UA-2023-DruidandPaladin making the two classes a pair that was released in Tandem. Bard & rogue were in a different packet & could have been targeting a different assumed power level or the druid & paladin packet could have been aimed at a different power level than that earlier packet after crunching feedback they got. [B]Reason three[/B]: You could compare it to any of the playtest packet classes we have so far & still walk away with nothing but "uhh... I'm trying and not seeing [I]any[/I] niche" they were aiming for. Also being in wildshape effectively cuts off casting simply because the "abjuration spells" ability on page 8 of that packet only allows casting of the following spells levels one to nine: "[I]cure wounds, healing word, Lesser restoration, prayer of healing, beacon of hope, dispel magic, remove curse, aura of life, aura of purity, death ward, circle of power, mass cure wounds, heal, mass heal, power word heal[/I]" due to limiting options to abjuration spells with no material component. Nothing about gp value of that component, simply "[I][U][B]a[/B][/U][/I] material component". Given how limited that 15 spell list is a wildshaped moon druid is so extremely constrained as a caster that it might be a stretch to say that functionally they even rise to the level of simply being as good a caster as a paladin. [USER=6801228]@Chaosmancer[/USER] That's not the point I was making. That point is how the execution is so awful it gives the impression of someone trying to lower poll results for that idea. I guess it's also possible that the playtest druid was still paying for the sins of the 3.x CoDzilla as an alternate but that druid struggles to present itself as a class with [I]any[/I] niche beyond "Alice showed up so we are letting her play her moon druid with us because it's the class she wants to play... [I]still..[/I]". [/QUOTE]
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