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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9023817" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>On the contrary... I think what they did actually HELPED identify for them what they thought.</p><p></p><p>The fact that the templates were consider supposedly "so bad" AND YET still got really high marks from a lot of people saying the template idea was a <em>good one</em>... told them all they needed to know about the viability of the template design. If they were really trying to "skew the results" of their own survey... making bad templates would have been done with the purpose to make sure everybody voted "No templates! Use animal blocks like in 2014!"</p><p></p><p>But that didn't happen. So if the fact that a bad design strategy STILL GARNERED high marks from a lot of players... that tells them that if/when they design a better system it'll get embraced EVEN MORE than it already has.</p><p></p><p>This is the thing that I shake my head at so many times... when some folks here downvote in the surveys because the thing they were voting on "isn't balanced". Most of these things aren't supposed to be balanced! They tell us this all the time! All they care about is how do we feel about the IDEA, and NOT about the execution of the idea. And while yes, some players seem unable or unwilling to separate the two-- if the mechanical execution sucks then obviously the idea sucks-- many other players seem perfectly willing to see the idea for what it COULD be, and can thus determine for themselves whether that "corrected" idea that will come in the future would be better than what we have now.</p><p></p><p>The <em>idea</em> with regards to wildshape is "Are you okay with flipping through one or more books finding animal statblocks to use"? And those that aren't don't need to know what the answer/solution is yet and the thing the playtest gives for us to "test" doesn't even have to work very well. All that matters is "No, I want something other than spending 1 to 5 minutes with our eyes buried in books" and thus will respond in the surveys with that answer. And once Jeremy et. al. see how many people agree with that take, THEN they can really start delving into the best way to solve the issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9023817, member: 7006"] On the contrary... I think what they did actually HELPED identify for them what they thought. The fact that the templates were consider supposedly "so bad" AND YET still got really high marks from a lot of people saying the template idea was a [I]good one[/I]... told them all they needed to know about the viability of the template design. If they were really trying to "skew the results" of their own survey... making bad templates would have been done with the purpose to make sure everybody voted "No templates! Use animal blocks like in 2014!" But that didn't happen. So if the fact that a bad design strategy STILL GARNERED high marks from a lot of players... that tells them that if/when they design a better system it'll get embraced EVEN MORE than it already has. This is the thing that I shake my head at so many times... when some folks here downvote in the surveys because the thing they were voting on "isn't balanced". Most of these things aren't supposed to be balanced! They tell us this all the time! All they care about is how do we feel about the IDEA, and NOT about the execution of the idea. And while yes, some players seem unable or unwilling to separate the two-- if the mechanical execution sucks then obviously the idea sucks-- many other players seem perfectly willing to see the idea for what it COULD be, and can thus determine for themselves whether that "corrected" idea that will come in the future would be better than what we have now. The [I]idea[/I] with regards to wildshape is "Are you okay with flipping through one or more books finding animal statblocks to use"? And those that aren't don't need to know what the answer/solution is yet and the thing the playtest gives for us to "test" doesn't even have to work very well. All that matters is "No, I want something other than spending 1 to 5 minutes with our eyes buried in books" and thus will respond in the surveys with that answer. And once Jeremy et. al. see how many people agree with that take, THEN they can really start delving into the best way to solve the issue. [/QUOTE]
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