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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6926478" data-attributes="member: 82106">Yeah, I have to agree. The real bread-n-butter gold stuff is pretty much out of books. The last few dragons did put out some stuff that was clearly a bit 'developmental' and might not be super clean, like the feats for MCing and the hybridizing e-classes and whatnot, but none of that is really stupid broken. In any case 4e doesn't tend to have one specific thing that makes some build 'broken'. Its like stupid charging tricks. You pile on 4 items and 5 feats, and a class choice, and some powers, and sure enough its kinda silly. There isn't any specific one of those things that has to be nerfed. They all just incrementally add up to 'you can do a stupid amount of stuff when you charge someone'. Of course good luck taking on some flying creature or getting stuck in the middle of a swamp full of difficult terrain... There were a very few things, like at one point Fey Charger builds, that were border-line. They were at the point of being 'obnoxiously good', and that did draw the nerf hammer. None of that used Dragon particularly though.</blockquote>