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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DadToD&amp;DBoys" data-source="post: 5799971" data-attributes="member: 6688402">S'mon - Thanks for breaking down the Fallen Lands and Forgotten Kingdoms classes. It looks like we'll need both books (my oldest wants to be a Drow Cleric, and the youngest wants to be a Dragonborn Knight). None of the books look particularly expensive, but I have to ask again... "Why do they make this so difficult?" I feel I'm being manipulated in a seedy way. 'Buy this, and that and this other thing and piece your own information together.' Don't get me wrong, this forum is great and the people here are very helpful, but here I am - a customer that wants to learn and buy the right stuff (without wasting money) but without you guys I'd be buying books that would only give me part of what I need.  It seems many of these books repeat much of the same material anyway, why not combine them. I'm sure they'd make more $$$ having one comprehensive book that gave me everything I need in one place rather than forcing me to buy bits and pieces with me not really sure if what I need is in this or that unclearly titled book (Should the title "Heroes of the Fallen Lands" mean something to me? - it doesn't).  Sorry ... [taking breath, stopping complaining] ... again, thanks for your help ... grin Question - implement. Can someone please enlighten me (direct me to the right book or explain) as to how a cleric attack bonus works when using their weapon as an implement. Are they still using the weapon as a weapon or just channeling magic through it? I can't remember the power but one said something like "Wisdom VS AC" for the attack. My question is would they still get any weapon bonuses in addition to the Wisdom vs AC? Could you also use charge? Dad to D&D Boys </blockquote>

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