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<blockquote data-quote="twjensen" data-source="post: 166826" data-attributes="member: 3124">I like it1. Sorcerers are practically unplayable anyway.2. The price is WAY wrong.&nbsp; The use activated items cost approx spell level squared * 4,000 GP (spell level * caster level * 2,000 works out about the same as spell level * spell level * 4,000).&nbsp; So these are 1/4 the price.&nbsp; 2,000 * spell level squared is probably better.&nbsp; [Meaning 1/2 price for the requirement of using up a spell to activate.]3. There are lots of other magic items I could buy for 18,000 gold in place of a spontaneous convert to fireball, for example. [3 * 3 * 2,000]4. I can now buy spontaneous convert to magic missile for 2,000 gold.&nbsp;&nbsp; hmmm... a wand of magic missiles caster level 5 is worth more.&nbsp; [over 3,000 for a fully charged wand] Price is probably still wrong.How about spell level * max caster level * 1000?&nbsp; With max caster level being no less than the minimum required to cast the spell?&nbsp; [and actual caster level being the lesser of either the ring's level or the user level]Then if I want a magic missile ring, it costs 1,000, takes a spell to activate, and generates one whopping missile.&nbsp; Or I could pay 5,000 GP for one that can convert for 3 missiles, [but a user of 3rd level would only get 2 out of it].&nbsp; The fireball ring would be 15,000 for a 5D6 fireball, 30,000 GP for one that could deal 10D6.&nbsp; Again, the ring's user would have to be *capable* of casting a 10D6 fireball before the ring could work at that level.[clarifying edits]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="twjensen, post: 166826, member: 3124"] [b]I like it[/b] 1. Sorcerers are practically unplayable anyway. 2. The price is WAY wrong. The use activated items cost approx spell level squared * 4,000 GP (spell level * caster level * 2,000 works out about the same as spell level * spell level * 4,000). So these are 1/4 the price. 2,000 * spell level squared is probably better. [Meaning 1/2 price for the requirement of using up a spell to activate.] 3. There are lots of other magic items I could buy for 18,000 gold in place of a spontaneous convert to fireball, for example. [3 * 3 * 2,000] 4. I can now buy spontaneous convert to magic missile for 2,000 gold. hmmm... a wand of magic missiles caster level 5 is worth more. [over 3,000 for a fully charged wand] Price is probably still wrong. How about spell level * max caster level * 1000? With max caster level being no less than the minimum required to cast the spell? [and actual caster level being the lesser of either the ring's level or the user level] Then if I want a magic missile ring, it costs 1,000, takes a spell to activate, and generates one whopping missile. Or I could pay 5,000 GP for one that can convert for 3 missiles, [but a user of 3rd level would only get 2 out of it]. The fireball ring would be 15,000 for a 5D6 fireball, 30,000 GP for one that could deal 10D6. Again, the ring's user would have to be *capable* of casting a 10D6 fireball before the ring could work at that level. [clarifying edits] [/QUOTE]

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