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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7705406" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>First, it's barely a playtest. It's a concept test. </p><p>How many people do you <em>actually</em> think are testing these classes via play? </p><p>Giving away everything, including the content that doesn't need as much testing, turns these articles into previews. </p><p></p><p>Second, WotC is a business. They're not going to give away the entire contents of a book to publically test. Even Paizo doesn't do that for their mass playtests. </p><p>If they give away everything, fewer people will buy the final product. And that's a foolish move.</p><p></p><p>Third, releasing everything reduces the amount of useful feedback gained. There's more content to be absorbed, so small details will be missed in order to absorb it all. The amount of discussion won't significantly change, just the percentage per new option: fewer people are going to be talking about each new option. There's higher odds certain options will catch the attention at the expense of other more fringe options. </p><p></p><p>Fourth, they <em>are</em> getting feedback. From the private friends & family playtest groups. They've been testing and looking at options for years. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is probably why we saw the arcane archer at all. </p><p>Very likely there was some internal concerns and mixed feedback from the F&F playtesters, so they decided to get wider opinions. To see if it worked for fighters, or if it would be better for rogues or rangers or wizards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7705406, member: 37579"] First, it's barely a playtest. It's a concept test. How many people do you [I]actually[/I] think are testing these classes via play? Giving away everything, including the content that doesn't need as much testing, turns these articles into previews. Second, WotC is a business. They're not going to give away the entire contents of a book to publically test. Even Paizo doesn't do that for their mass playtests. If they give away everything, fewer people will buy the final product. And that's a foolish move. Third, releasing everything reduces the amount of useful feedback gained. There's more content to be absorbed, so small details will be missed in order to absorb it all. The amount of discussion won't significantly change, just the percentage per new option: fewer people are going to be talking about each new option. There's higher odds certain options will catch the attention at the expense of other more fringe options. Fourth, they [I]are[/I] getting feedback. From the private friends & family playtest groups. They've been testing and looking at options for years. Which is probably why we saw the arcane archer at all. Very likely there was some internal concerns and mixed feedback from the F&F playtesters, so they decided to get wider opinions. To see if it worked for fighters, or if it would be better for rogues or rangers or wizards. [/QUOTE]
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