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Message: <blockquote data-quote="QuietBrowser" data-source="post: 7024297" data-attributes="member: 6855057">The problem with adding new classes is that, really, WoTC seems determined to focus on subclasses first and foremost. That's why the Artificer was originally broached as a Wizard subclass, after all. And, really, unlike in, say, Pathfinder, 5e's subclass system is crunchy enough that it actually does nullify the need for a lot of extra classes.I mean, honestly, what class concepts are there left that would actually  warrant being full-fledged classes?Gunslinger? Take an Archery focused Fighter, Ranger or Rogue, give them a gun, let them make ammunition with an Int check and access to the raw materials, and you're done. At best, we could get some gunslinging-archetypes for more guns & sorcery campaigns. Heck, I'd actually be kind of interested in a Hexslinger warlock or a Holy Gun paladin.Summoner? The Conjurer already exists and is focused around being excellent at commanding summoned minions; how would this honestly be any different?Oracle? This'd be very hard to make different from a "Cleric-dabbling" Sorcerer subclass, ala the mk2 Favored Soul.Shaman? A Sorcerer that "dabbles" in Druid magic.The Gish archetype? It's not quite as satisfactory as 4e's Swordmage, personally, but between the Eldritch Knight Fighter, the Bladesinging Wizard and the Stone Sorcerer, it's covered.Warden? Without 4e's mechanics to really help make it feel unique, ultimately, this is a Druidic version of the Eldritch Knight Fighter.Investigator? We have this already - it's a Rogue archetype.Bloodrager? It's a Sorcerer/Barbarian fusion subclass.I literally can't think of anything that WoTC couldn't jam into the subclass mechanic and make it work, except maybe psionic classes - and odds are likely those'll all end up as subclasses of Mystic.Don't forget, WoTC took a poll on Prestige Classes and, from what I was told, the response to their return was overwhelmingly negative. It's not hard to imagine that, from that, WoTC may also have concluded that people would rather see ideas fit into the subclass framework first before trying to make them into full-fledged classes.</blockquote>

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