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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7030068" data-attributes="member: 12731">I think all attempts at providing a Warlord so far only serves as insults to those wanting a real warlord. A proper Warlord needs to be its own class, since there does not exist a class with no magic with baseline martial abilities. Removing spells from something as Cleric or ranger simply is too kludgey.The Warlord would probably be a d8 class with martial weapons and medium armor. Probably extra attack at level 5 for parity with other "martial" classes (paladin, barbarian, ranger).There are two main design challenges as I see it. Awarding completely unmagical but still fully effective "martial healing" is not one of them - the haters will simply have to not buy this product.Instead, I'm thinking of:#1: since this character won't primarily deal damage from his own weapon, what stops him from going Cha/Dex and dumping Str?I strongly believe a Warlord should be given incentive to not dump Strength. Since the only existing real minmax incentive is that you're allowed to use greatweapons (not even heavy armor is an incentive, since light armor plus Dex is just as good), the design should probably include a few abilities that key off Strength. Not to such a degree the Warlord can't go Dex; but enough to at least make it a real choice.#2: the lack of "basic attacks" in 5E. The core ability of a Warlord is and must be the ability to give away his own actions and his own attacks to others, without any real limitations. But this utterly breaks the game. A rogue's Sneak Attack, for instance, is definied as "once per turn". If the Warlord can give the rogue one more Sneak Attack every round, that's simply too good. The design needs to take much more control over the actual effects of the warlord's gifted attacks. That's where the distinction between "a simple attack" and a "full attack" comes in - both 3e and 4e used such a distinction.The warlord can give away attacks that mean the recipient makes a whack, adding weapon damage to ability modifier... and that's it. Any extras needs to be defined by the Warlord class, not the recipient's class.</blockquote>

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