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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7030674" data-attributes="member: 996">It's not like we're asking for some novel new thing out of the blue. The Warlord was a core class in a PH1.&nbsp; &nbsp;So, if there were no Wizard class, relatively few wizard fans would be happy with just those options.&nbsp; The current options that faintly resemble the Warlord do not even come as close as the AT does to the Wizard.&nbsp; It is patently absurd to suggest the Warlord isn't needed because of the PDK.&nbsp;So which is it?&nbsp; No interest in the Warlord, or such extensive interest there are dozens of attempts at it?No amount of fan-created material substitutes for an official class, though, as I already explained.&nbsp; We are where we are now, trying to 'heal the rift in the fanbase' because fans wouldn't be satisfied with just doing there own thing with 3pp product and letting the official game go a different way.&nbsp;There's a vast gulf between the two.&nbsp;One.&nbsp; None of those are the Warlord.&nbsp; None of them are even close.&nbsp; Again, would you be happy never playing a wizard again because you could play an AT with the Charlatan background?&nbsp; No. &nbsp;I'm willing to give them a chance.&nbsp; How many h4ters were still giving 4e a chance in early 2011?&nbsp; &nbsp;Even if there were a great 3pp Warlord in a published 5th edition of the world's first RPG compatible supplement somewhere it wouldn't blunt the desire for an official version. If D&amp;D fans were so easily molified, there'd've been no edition war in the first place, as d20 made 3pp material of the sort desired available in perpetuity. No edition war, no rift to heal, no 5e. That there is a 5e is proof positive that you can't just toss some of your fans and expect 3pps to take up the slack.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7030674, member: 996"] It's not like we're asking for some novel new thing out of the blue. The Warlord was a core class in a PH1. So, if there were no Wizard class, relatively few wizard fans would be happy with just those options. The current options that faintly resemble the Warlord do not even come as close as the AT does to the Wizard. It is patently absurd to suggest the Warlord isn't needed because of the PDK. So which is it? No interest in the Warlord, or such extensive interest there are dozens of attempts at it? No amount of fan-created material substitutes for an official class, though, as I already explained. We are where we are now, trying to 'heal the rift in the fanbase' because fans wouldn't be satisfied with just doing there own thing with 3pp product and letting the official game go a different way. There's a vast gulf between the two. One. None of those are the Warlord. None of them are even close. Again, would you be happy never playing a wizard again because you could play an AT with the Charlatan background? No. I'm willing to give them a chance. How many h4ters were still giving 4e a chance in early 2011? Even if there were a great 3pp Warlord in a published 5th edition of the world's first RPG compatible supplement somewhere it wouldn't blunt the desire for an official version. If D&D fans were so easily molified, there'd've been no edition war in the first place, as d20 made 3pp material of the sort desired available in perpetuity. No edition war, no rift to heal, no 5e. That there is a 5e is proof positive that you can't just toss some of your fans and expect 3pps to take up the slack. [/QUOTE]

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