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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8617391" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>There's tons of stuff on alignments online, so new players already have plenty of resources. For instance, <a href="https://mykindofmeeple.com/lawful-good-alignment/" target="_blank">this page</a> on Lawful Good, which seems nice and in-depth.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Except that, as you have likely seen, there are still plenty of discussions as to why exactly is creating undead an evil, or if mind-controlling someone so they don't perform an evil act is, itself, an evil act. Or whether a society could perform a child sacrifice in order to save hundreds or thousands of other people is an evil act.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In this case, I was talking about how "LE god of evil magic" doesn't actually describe the god in any detail.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And I'm sorry, but I find that pretty dull, if only because it gets in the way of me, the DM, having them act in the way I need to tell my side of the story. If I wanted to have ruthless elf or halfling soldiers that will gladly kill an entire village, I will--even though elves and halflings are traditionally Good.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is why I said that Mistwell missed my point because AC 20 and LG have two very different purposes and are used in game for two very different reasons. You can't compare a number with a hard-and-fast meaning with something like alignment and character personality.</p><p></p><p>I'm pretty sure that nobody in the history of gaming has ever had an argument as to what AC 20 (or AC 0, back in the THAC0 days) actually <em>means, </em>whereas I personally have seen or been part of <em>many </em>arguments as to what any particular alignment means.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So I could convert an orc to good and then immediately kill it so it won't backslide, and that's a lawful good act, right? I mean Gygax thought so and he invented the system, so he should know. </p><p></p><p>Or, if <em>not </em>sacrificing a child means that the Demon will rise and devour a thousand people body and soul, what alignment would you put the act of sacrifice as? Would it matter if the child was willing, because she was lawful good enough to put the needs of her people above her own life?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8617391, member: 6915329"] There's tons of stuff on alignments online, so new players already have plenty of resources. For instance, [URL='https://mykindofmeeple.com/lawful-good-alignment/']this page[/URL] on Lawful Good, which seems nice and in-depth. Except that, as you have likely seen, there are still plenty of discussions as to why exactly is creating undead an evil, or if mind-controlling someone so they don't perform an evil act is, itself, an evil act. Or whether a society could perform a child sacrifice in order to save hundreds or thousands of other people is an evil act. In this case, I was talking about how "LE god of evil magic" doesn't actually describe the god in any detail. And I'm sorry, but I find that pretty dull, if only because it gets in the way of me, the DM, having them act in the way I need to tell my side of the story. If I wanted to have ruthless elf or halfling soldiers that will gladly kill an entire village, I will--even though elves and halflings are traditionally Good. Which is why I said that Mistwell missed my point because AC 20 and LG have two very different purposes and are used in game for two very different reasons. You can't compare a number with a hard-and-fast meaning with something like alignment and character personality. I'm pretty sure that nobody in the history of gaming has ever had an argument as to what AC 20 (or AC 0, back in the THAC0 days) actually [I]means, [/I]whereas I personally have seen or been part of [I]many [/I]arguments as to what any particular alignment means. So I could convert an orc to good and then immediately kill it so it won't backslide, and that's a lawful good act, right? I mean Gygax thought so and he invented the system, so he should know. Or, if [I]not [/I]sacrificing a child means that the Demon will rise and devour a thousand people body and soul, what alignment would you put the act of sacrifice as? Would it matter if the child was willing, because she was lawful good enough to put the needs of her people above her own life? [/QUOTE]
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