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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fluffybunbunkittens" data-source="post: 9203626" data-attributes="member: 7037492">I know Grapple says (in 2014 PHB too) that you 'drag or carry' the target, but... applying that to encumbrance rules at all makes things insufferable for high-Str people too. The 'you are Slowed while grappling someone' is meant to simulate this already.I'd rather just not have Monks be able to use Dex to grapple people. Then the default people doing so are the strong ones, and we can just handwave that whole weight issue (because I am not calculating what a 9ft troll in armor weighs, because the answer is that it scales much faster than any Str score's encumbrance anyway, and then giants cannot move other giants either, but Push weapon mastery will still let anyone push Large critters at walking pace anyway).</blockquote>