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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9234194" data-attributes="member: 6877472">It was back in 4e that I had this epiphany about armor check penalties and the like.&nbsp; Look at the Fighter.&nbsp; They traditionally have mostly Physical skills- climbing, swimming, jumping, and so on.&nbsp; If they get a social skill, it's usually rather blunt like Intimidate.Fighters are usually designed to wear heavy armor.&nbsp; Starting in 3e, it became vogue to penalize most of the skills Fighters were good at for wearing the armor they were intended to wear, which really hampered their so-called advantages.It wasn't until Pathfinder 1e that any sort of patch for this was made, by giving the Fighter the ability to reduce the penalties for wearing armor.Doing away with penalties for armor and encumbrance actually helps the Strength Fighter (since the bulk of one's weight carried is typically your armor, and theirs is the heaviest), even if it seems like the opposite would be true.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9234194, member: 6877472"] It was back in 4e that I had this epiphany about armor check penalties and the like. Look at the Fighter. They traditionally have mostly Physical skills- climbing, swimming, jumping, and so on. If they get a social skill, it's usually rather blunt like Intimidate. Fighters are usually designed to wear heavy armor. Starting in 3e, it became vogue to penalize most of the skills Fighters were good at for wearing the armor they were intended to wear, which really hampered their so-called advantages. It wasn't until Pathfinder 1e that any sort of patch for this was made, by giving the Fighter the ability to reduce the penalties for wearing armor. Doing away with penalties for armor and encumbrance actually helps the Strength Fighter (since the bulk of one's weight carried is typically your armor, and theirs is the heaviest), even if it seems like the opposite would be true. [/QUOTE]

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