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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9240349" data-attributes="member: 23751">RAW also says it's up to the DM to determine if a retry is okay.  The portion that says, "In other cases, failing an ability check makes it impossible to make the same check to do the same thing again."  It's understandable for a DM to rule that a failed roll to open a lock means that this particular lock is beyond the skill of the PC, making it impossible.  It's also understandable for a DM to rule you can continue to try until you succeed.  Both are valid per RAW.The DM can stop you with the above ruling.And there is.  This lock is beyond you because you failed to open it.  Simply having a +10 vs. a DC 30 does not guarantee you unlimited tries. The DM determines what failure means, not the player and not the book.</blockquote>