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<blockquote data-quote="Mind of tempest" data-source="post: 8698006" data-attributes="member: 7029233">basic weapon guy is more a design philosophy as barbarians being simple and martial would both fit them and let fight become something worth having, the problem of just a guy with a weapon is it would only realistically be 3 levels as much past that and you start having to become a master at something to keep up with every other class, also how is press rage and smash people not super simple?I agree it tried to do too much should have stuck to a mix of support and blasting as the base idea with maybe one summon class or something.the psi blade going to the rouge was odd but a decent option.honestly, sorcerer needs to go back to the drawing board and maybe make it the caster for noobs if nothing else really sells it to other people.I would be okay with wizards being king if I got a full psionic caster.warlock should just eat the present sorcerer and make itself a full caster.they do not seem to understand complete noobs stick to the player handbook as most are not invested sufficiently to buy everything yet, I like the simplicity and ease of 5e but they should at least try to make interesting ideas for sub and full classes if just so it does not feel like they are scraping the bottom of the safe barrel of ideas, you know flex some design muscles and live a little.true but we are burning out of nice safe stuff for them to do and give they want to solve everything with spell slots it just feels like they a slumming it for a paycheck at this point, plus the new audience can be told what to like or do you not know how pop music works?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mind of tempest, post: 8698006, member: 7029233"] basic weapon guy is more a design philosophy as barbarians being simple and martial would both fit them and let fight become something worth having, the problem of just a guy with a weapon is it would only realistically be 3 levels as much past that and you start having to become a master at something to keep up with every other class, also how is press rage and smash people not super simple? I agree it tried to do too much should have stuck to a mix of support and blasting as the base idea with maybe one summon class or something. the psi blade going to the rouge was odd but a decent option. honestly, sorcerer needs to go back to the drawing board and maybe make it the caster for noobs if nothing else really sells it to other people. I would be okay with wizards being king if I got a full psionic caster. warlock should just eat the present sorcerer and make itself a full caster. they do not seem to understand complete noobs stick to the player handbook as most are not invested sufficiently to buy everything yet, I like the simplicity and ease of 5e but they should at least try to make interesting ideas for sub and full classes if just so it does not feel like they are scraping the bottom of the safe barrel of ideas, you know flex some design muscles and live a little. true but we are burning out of nice safe stuff for them to do and give they want to solve everything with spell slots it just feels like they a slumming it for a paycheck at this point, plus the new audience can be told what to like or do you not know how pop music works? [/QUOTE]

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